Scottish Grand National

Outsider said:
It's going to be interesting to see if the top weights stay in.if they both come out the weights go up 10lb and it becomes I different race.

Enrillo does look good at the moment.
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Enrilo still 25s (5 places) with paddy power although the b******s limited me to £4.

Also with Lads yesterday (4 places)


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Marb said:
Stormy Judge is an interesting potential runner.



He is entered in this and at Fairyhouse in the Irish National but I am quietly confident he might act on better ground as why enter him in these two nationals expecting soft or heavy ground, it doesn't make sense. .
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Master Fogpatches (full brother) acts on decent ground so would be optimistic.
 
If Olly Murphy runs The Wolf he may be in with a squeak if he can get round without messing up a fence or two (probably a big if). Unexposed and they tried him at the extreme trip last time which he coped with ok.
 
Desert Orchid said:
I've taken Cool Mix at 40/1.

I had to resist the temptation to wait until tomorrow's declaration stage, probably the sensible thing to do, but just reckoned if the field does cut up a fair bit his price might have shortened a good bit.

I presume he's an intended runner and he was a wee bit unlucky last year, losing his place mid-race before staying on late. He's 6lbs lower now.

He's some way out of the handicap at the moment but if a few of the top weights come out he might be okay, especially if the race cuts up a good bit. Personally I don't expect it to but if he's balloted out I'll get my money back.

If he stays out of the weights a good claimer could minimise the disadvantage a fair bit.
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Gets into the race and handicap and is now 25/1 tops.
 
Jockey bookings will be interesting.

Will El paso wood have his 7lb claimer retained?
Is a fortnight a long enough break?
I've had to do it even though my brain says it's wrong.
66/1 boosted to 70s.
 
Do you mean are apprentices permitted to claim their allowance in the race or will the jockey be retained to ride by connections.

If it's the former, looking at last year's race, the claims were allowed.
 
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yorick said:
Do you mean are apprentices permitted to claim their allowance in the race or will the jockey be retained to ride by connections.

If it's the former, looking at last year's race, the claims were allowed.
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Yes I want to know who's using a claimer and which claimer.could make a difference to my thinking.
 
I'm going completely against the grain this year.

8 to 10 yr olds have the best record and low weights and not had a hard race lately.

I'm going for a 7 yr old with 11.12 hoping a claimer will ride and was pulled up in the Midlands national a fortnight ago.

HEWICK. Last week was its first run since Oct and is used to racing regularly and led the field until hampered by the riderless Achilles.
lost its place and pulled up.
Its last race before that was over 3m 5f where he made a few minor mistakes but he moved through easily and never looked like getting beat.stayed on strongly on good going so hopefully Ayr will miss the supposed bad weather.
20/1 at the moment.
 
In the big scheme of things, it's a normal handicap so a claim is a claim. I don't think claims are allowed in the Aintree National.
 
Desert Orchid said:
In the big scheme of things, it's a normal handicap so a claim is a claim. I don't think claims are allowed in the Aintree National.
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Hewick had J.Gainsford (3) last time but a 7lb claimer when it won.
7lb claimer usually rides el paso wood.would have less chance without him.
 
Copied from the Longshot thread:

I've now done my figures for the Scottish National and decided my main bet in the race will be the longshot One More Fleurie 50/1.

On the surface of it, its form figures this season aren't promising (8P0) but the horse was an improving novice this time last season and won the big novice handicap at this meeting.

His three runs this season have been in races worth a combined £269k to the winner and he was only 12/1 for the first of them. I'm prepared to ignore the fact that he has disappointed in those three runs on the basis that this has been the aim since winning at the meeting last year when he jumped notably well in the lead, an attribute that will stand him in good stead for Saturday.

Knowing my luck, though, my trust that this is the target will prove misplaced and he won't even run...
 
barjon said:
If Olly Murphy runs The Wolf he may be in with a squeak if he can get round without messing up a fence or two (probably a big if). Unexposed and they tried him at the extreme trip last time which he coped with ok.
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I'm also a The Wolf backer, barjon.
 
Have 'people of influence' put up Cool Mix and OMF somewhere today?

The former is down to 16s generally (18s in a couple of places), the latter 33s tops and generally blue as well.
 
Desert Orchid said:
I've taken Cool Mix at 40/1.

I had to resist the temptation to wait until tomorrow's declaration stage, probably the sensible thing to do, but just reckoned if the field does cut up a fair bit his price might have shortened a good bit.

I presume he's an intended runner and he was a wee bit unlucky last year, losing his place mid-race before staying on late. He's 6lbs lower now.

He's some way out of the handicap at the moment but if a few of the top weights come out he might be okay, especially if the race cuts up a good bit. Personally I don't expect it to but if he's balloted out I'll get my money back.

If he stays out of the weights a good claimer could minimise the disadvantage a fair bit.
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Paul Kealy headlines Cool Mix in the Weekender today.

Wish I'd put it in the longshot thread. Complete oversight on my part!

(OMF still the main bet, though.)
 
No, but he's good and often moves the market.

I might get the chance to lay off the win portion to no risk if it shortens again.
 
Outsider said:
Looks like Enrilo is being saved for the bet365.
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Missing a completely winnable jock Nash for a Whitbread that might have multiple Mullins entries as he chases a title is peak modern pumpkin. He's deteriorated as a trainer faster than Stormy Island did when he got hold of her.
 
Euronymous said:
Missing a completely winnable jock Nash for a Whitbread that might have multiple Mullins entries as he chases a title is peak modern pumpkin. He's deteriorated as a trainer faster than Stormy Island did when he got hold of her.
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Fortunately Paddy Power restricted my AP bet on this horse so no real damage but completely agree this was an opportunity missed.

Mullins has been playing down the prospect of a tilt at the English title as he’d need to win £500k more than PFN but if anyone can do it …


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