Scottish Independence.....

simmo said:
We can but hope, keep those wildlings to the south in order.

As McGlashan said

"we even invented the English. We took all the people in our country who were poofs or bastards or deviants or girls and sent them down south and said 'Right, youse can be the English. And we'll come down every now and then and kick your arse'"
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McGlashan clearly missed the irony in booting-out all the "girls"; presumably leaving all us blokes to bum ourselves senseless throughout the last millenia?

'Whae's like us?".
 
I find it very hard to understand why anyone would dislike Murray. Seems a nice guy, relatively normal.

Hamilton on the other hand ....
 
simmo said:
I think it will be a lot closer than the odds suggest. It's very rare to actually meet someone who wants to stay part of the union these days - plenty of "I'm not sure's", but not too many, "I definitely do's".

Personally I'm a bit concerned by the concentration on Alex Salmond in the views on here. As soon as Scotland decides he's a ****, he's gone, same as is currently the situation with a PM in Westminster - it's not as if a YES vote is giving him or SturgeonEggsFace some sort of lifetime dictatorial powers....

However, if the NO wankers have managed to get the rest of the country to think in the same way then there could be a major travesty.
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Wrong on a couple of points

Firstly you don't know anyone. Asking parking attendants and supermarket check out girls does not count. They only wanted to get rid of you

Second the odds are right. its the Neil Kinnock factor. Back in the day loads were saying "yes ill vote for him!" whilst thinking "no fcking way". When it got to ticking the box it was a case of "do i want that windbag in charge of the economy" (an interview he had on Panorama on that very subject was probably the most embarrassing i have ever seen from a leader)

The berk held a rally thinking he had won the election

Same scenario. Plenty saying yes in public and no when head screwed on. People stick with what they know more than vote for real change
 
I'm surprised no-one has developed a thread along the lines of what the new Scottish currency might be called.

I'l start with - The Scottish Runt

MR2
 
It's less about what it's called and more about what it's value would be.

How about 'the Farthing'??
 
Considering the falsehood of the independance choice:

'think of a double headed 10cr (centi-runt) coin with King Alex on one side and Queen Nicola on the other'

MR2
 
Been thinking about this a bit.

The premis on which the Independence Referendum is based, is (presumably) that we are one Nation, united under the Saltire, and should therefore be at liberty to determine our own geo-political fate.

Why, then, are EU and Commonwealth nationals living in Scotland, permitted a vote?

How can it be right that the fate of our one Nation united under the Saltire, can be influenced by effective transients, with no particular 'skin in this game'.....other than the fact that they happen to live here over the qualifying period?

Forget the numbers (it's between 75,000 - 85,000 combined, depending on who Jimmy Google asks), I'm talking about the principle. In what Universe are they qualified to have a say, on a question which goes to the very essence of being Scottish.....which they self-evidently are not?

Equally, why are 16yos, who - by their very definition - are know-nothing fu*ckwits, allowed to vote?

Are we seriously allowing the fate of a nation to be determined - and 300 years of history potentially consigned to the bin - by a tranche of the population that are clueless about the technical risks associated with a vote for cessation from the UK?

This referendum is fundamentally flawed, imo.....regardless of Yes/No positions.
 
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Grasshopper said:
Only a fu*cking idiot would choose to settle here, Gareth, rendering their participation invalid on grounds of lunacy.
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Exactly. My father got a job in Montrose teaching fire fighting techniques to new riggers in the early 80s so we moved up there. As soon as he himself got a job on the rigs we moved back. Unfortunately we chose the first big town you come to on the M6. Even more of a mistake imo.
 
Euronymous said:
Exactly. My father got a job in Montrose teaching fire fighting techniques to new riggers in the early 80s so we moved up there. As soon as he himself got a job on the rigs we moved back. Unfortunately we chose the first big town you come to on the M6. Even more of a mistake imo.
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That would be Carlisle, Euro :D
 
You're on the front line there mate.

If they vote yes there will be refugee camps all round Carlisle. Appeals on the tele for mars bars and deep fat fryers. Right mess

If you get too many of hem round your gaff, rattle a charity tin and they will scatter
 
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A question.....and it's a genuine one.

Let's say there is a Yes vote. It's at this point where the conditions of Independence start to be negotiated in earnest.

What happens, say, if the Scottish Government don't get everything they want....or that the deal is diluted to an extent that previous Yes voters question whether it remains a good thing. What happens as regards whether a deal is acceptable? Say, for argument's sake, Scotland was only allocated 85% of Oil/Gas waters, in exchange for use of the £Sterling. On the one hand, they get use of a relatively stable currency, whilst maintaining an acceptable degree of fiscal control.....but on the other, a multi-£Bn gap has appeared in the country's financial proposition.

Can the Scottish Government discard the deal as un-workable, for whatever reason, and choose to retain the status quo? Hardly seems likely with the SNP holding a majority in Parliament.

In the event if a Yes vote, how does Scotland prevent itself from taking one in the hoop - pain thankfully to be absorbed mainly by our descendents - if the deal isn't equitable? I'm sure there must be a mechanism planned to arbitrate this, but I genuinely can't find an answer to this question.

And, if the power of accepting a deal lies with a Parliament with an SNP majority, how does the population of Scotland ensure that they don't sign-up to a bad deal, as means to their desired end i.e. Independnce for it's own sake; no matter the cost?
 
Why aren't the BBC televising this debate?

They are such utter cunts, the amount of time they spent ramming the London mayor race down the rest of the countries throat.
 
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