St Leger

[Grey]

This seems very harsh. Between the two men 148 horses were laid for total winnings of approx €6,500 and losses of €5,900. Spread over three years, that level of betting is merely recreational. €2,000 fines plus costs seem way over the top.

The story says the Turf Club independently discovered what was going on. I wonder how? Surely the bets involved were too minor to be picked up by any betting seismograph at Turf Club HQ? I suspect the investigation was originally looking for a much bigger operator(s), and these two lads were unfortunate enough to be by-catch in the net.

 

[Gamla Stan]

http://www.theirishfield.ie/site/images/articlefiles/1317146124Kaname-Tsuge-Lay-Bets.pdf

Here is the full list of their bets. The Zulu Chief one is a bit iffy (although it still won by 20L!) but some of the others seem like recreational punting.

Shrewd lads laying dogs like Fencing Master and Steinbeck.

 

[Irish Stamp]

We always said Ballydoyle knew how Betfair worked

 

[Harbinger]

Thanks GS! Some strange ones in there - laying Henrythenavigator in the Irish Guineas???

 

[Gamla Stan]

My point exactly really Gareth, surely a visit to the yard and a firm slap of the wrist and explaining the rules with a translator would have sufficed.

A full enquiry and hefty fines seem a bit OTT in this case given the bets.

 

[LUKE]

I would have thought that every punter in the country laughing at their lays would be punishment enough.

 

[Harbinger]

I'd be more comfortable with it if there had been some kind of sanction against their employers.

 

[davidjohnson]

A straightforward case of going after those that the authorities can prove have broken the rules, rather than those it's too difficult to prove are corrupt.

 

[Aragorn]

A straightforward case of going after those that the authorities can prove have broken the rules, rather than those it's too difficult to prove are corrupt.

Too true David. A classic regulator ploy to get some brownie points.

 

[Gamla Stan]

A straightforward case of going after those that the authorities can prove have broken the rules, rather than those it's too difficult to prove are corrupt.

Spot on.

 

[chroniclandlord]

Shrewd lads laying dogs like Fencing Master and Steinbeck.

And they still lost with one of the Steinbeck bets, it was a place lay.