The 2022 Derby Thread

Tanlic said:
You won too much on that 14/1 shot yesterday:lol:. There's better 7/4 shots to be found surely?
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Nah Fist, best horse in the race, won the best trial, beating a very good horse cosy, likely to handle course, distance & ground, improving, and with a top trainer who's plotted a very similar route to his most recent winner of the race.
Wouldn't be taking 7/4 ante-post, but if he runs, he wins - simple as.
 
Slim said:
I'm starting to come around to the idea that Desert Crown might just be too good.
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I've been open to the idea since the Dante but I was loath to get involved at shortish odds that far out. Come Saturday I might use him to cover all my other outlay on the race and I'm genuinely pleased for those that got on at longer odds, especially those that were on at 50/1 in April.
 
Truncheon said:
Met office and the BBC now forecasting rain for the South East on Saturday
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Met Office
https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/forecast/gcpgfk0su#?date=2022-06-04

BBC
https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2649957

Metcheck
https://www.metcheck.com/WEATHER/16...&locationID=65455&lat=51.3&lon=-0.3&findtype=

All in the 30-40% chance of light rain or showers. The nature of it is that no-one can be sure until Saturday but it doesn't seem likely that the going will be any worse than good to soft given that it will be warm and dry until early Saturday.

https://www.racingpost.com/news/lat...by-festival-after-heavy-rain-on-monday/559540
 
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Just been watching, yet again, Minstrel’s Derby. Just wonder if we’ll ever again see crowds like that at the race.
 
The Minstrel's Derby will for ever hold a special place in my affections.

I was working in France that year and was making the near-daily several-mile cycle run into the British Library in Bordeaux to catch up on the papers. In those days the likes of the Times, Telegraph and Guardian/Observer had very good racing coverage.

He was a short-priced favourite for the Guineas and around 7/2 for the Derby at that time. I didn't see the Guineas but there was plenty written about it. I recall reading into the reports that perhaps he had been unlucky on the day.

I can't recall if it was at this stage or after he was touched off in the Irish Guineas that I read that he was out to 20/1 for Epsom. But I do recall asking the brother to get me on for the Derby at the 20s. I was a very small-time punter back then. A 25p 'three-cross' would have been a big bet for me. (A year later I'd be earning 98p per hour working evenings and weekends in a pub.) But I asked him to put £1ew on for me at 20/1. He was a bit hesitant but was holding a big return for me from a successful 25p 'three-cross' I'd had at Cheltenham on Gold Cup day (two of the three winners were Meladon in the Triumph - 9/2, maybe? - and Davy Lad in the Gold Cup at 14/1).

I listened to the race on my transistor radio, so it must have been a BBC channel, maybe the World Service?

Anyway, I recall [I think it must have been] Peter Bromley calling The Minstrel home and I was jumping up and down in my flat. It was a proper result for me. (The three-cross paid more but this was very satisfying!)

I recall giving myself a minute or two to calm down and strolling down to a local bar and sinking quite a few 'demis'. After dinner, I met a few pals and continued bevvying into the evening.

A fine Derby winner, a textbook ride by Piggott and a smashing return.

All in all, a great memory.
 
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Unfortunately Eydon misses the race. From ATR

The trainer tweeted: “Sadly Eydon will miss the Derby at Epsom. He has met with a minor setback which will keep him from running on Saturday.


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baldeagle said:
Westover ew now that Eydon is not running


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I am sticking Westover, Star Of India and Desert Crown in reverse forecasts and a reverse tricast. Trying to maximise returns in the event Desert Crown wins at short odds...

This is my attempt at thinking outside the box.
 
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The fav has a poor draw (12), the same box RM couldn't get inside from on Pink Dogwood in the 019 Oaks, and RK will need to produce some wizardry to win from there: has the horse to do it, now needs to find the luck.
Conversely, Stone Age has pulled a plum (4) which is nigh perfect for his run style.
Fingers crossed for DC.
 
reet hard said:
The fav has a poor draw (12), the same box RM couldn't get inside from on Pink Dogwood in the 019 Oaks, and RK will need to produce some wizardry to win from there: has the horse to do it, now needs to find the luck.
Conversely, Stone Age has pulled a plum (4) which is nigh perfect for his run style.
Fingers crossed for DC.
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I'm not sure you are reading the draw right. Stone Age would prefer a high draw and go forward.
 
Slim said:
I'm not sure you are reading the draw right. Stone Age would prefer a high draw and go forward.
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Dunno Slim, saw in the Lester tributes where you need to be first 5 round Tattenham Corner to win the race. I know there's a kink after about 2f, but stall 4 looks pretty promising for a pace horse,imo.
 
reet hard said:
Dunno Slim, saw in the Lester tributes where you need to be first 5 round Tattenham Corner to win the race. I know there's a kink after about 2f, but stall 4 looks pretty promising for a pace horse,imo.
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He's going to be dropped in so I thought a low draw was worse for him to be honest. Stone Age will be all out to get the lead from 4.
 
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