The JP McManus Thread

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Where did I say discounts? I'm tired of arguing with lads that clearly know more than I do.
 
Slim, you said: "Do you honestly think JP pays full whack to every trainer? " the difference between that and a discount being?

Prior to that you said this:


"1/100 Yes
40/1 No

You need an open mind to understand this. For a start I suggest you read the worst piece of journalism ever written which was an RP Sunday article by Brough Scott on the 'great man' where he boasts about having it off on a JP gamble while he was there for the interview. Everyone talks about traing fees erc but these mean that people owe him the highest quality information. He can have a bet and rule our half the field. Some people on here are so naive that I wonder if they've expecting Santa Claus to deliver this year."

So you're calling people naive, and I assumed I was included in that, yet you've been unable to substantiate any of what you've actually said and then you're throwing your toys when people don't bow down to your "knowledge"? You're bound to get taken to task.

All i've done is pointed out that the facts available to us suggest he'd have to be turning a hell of a profit on his racing punting to make a profit on his racing operation and asked how you can be so sure he does. To my mind you've not been able to prove anything other than that he can bet millions across a number of sportsbooks (Which I don't doubt but that wasn;t the point) or you've tried to disprove my assertions which you've not done a great job of.

Personally I think your naive if you don't see that there is an element of philanthropy in the way he manages his racing operation. I'm not a frequent or serious enough punter to say that I truly understand his methods but my line of work means i'm more than capable of assessing whether or not a business is viable and the facts available say its a loss making business.

And frankly I just don't think it matters to him.
 
Aragorn said:
Slim, you said: "Do you honestly think JP pays full whack to every trainer? " the difference between that and a discount being?

Prior to that you said this:


"1/100 Yes
40/1 No
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What have the odds I previously quoted got to do with what he pays in training fees? My point was in relation to how much he would need to win to cover costs. The costs that other people are quoting are as 'far fetched' as my 18 million punting in four months.

You need an open mind to understand this. For a start I suggest you read the worst piece of journalism ever written which was an RP Sunday article by Brough Scott on the 'great man' where he boasts about having it off on a JP gamble while he was there for the interview.
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I started a thread on here that Sunday to sum up my dismay about that article so I need no educating on it. It does at least indicate that he does punt at the bad meetings.

Everyone talks about traing fees erc but these mean that people owe him the highest quality information. He can have a bet and rule our half the field. Some people on here are so naive that I wonder if they've expecting Santa Claus to deliver this year."

So you're calling people naive, and I assumed I was included in that, yet you've been unable to substantiate any of what you've actually said and then you're throwing your toys when people don't bow down to your "knowledge"? You're bound to get taken to task.
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Oh Jesus wept. Get a grip.

I stopped reading after that. To much waffle.
 
Bar the Bull said:
Slim Chance, I think you should address Aragorn's thread if you wish to retain credibility in this.

You may not care, but saying "Jesus wept...I stopped reading" makes you sound as if you don't have an answer.
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It was an interesting thread that's gone boring because people are pulling apart single sentence I've posted. I've no interest in credibility or educating people on here. I'm happy to just disagree.
 
Bar the Bull said:
Fair enough.

But I would agree that you have not substantiated much of what you said, so you are in danger of appearing to be all mouth and no trousers.
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No one can substantiate the opposite of what I say either but I might point out the irony of the article Brough Scott wrote, which I stated at the time was a horrific article, is a direct contradiction of the picture JP portrays of himself in the Limerick Leader or other publications.


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Thought the interesting quote was in the article was 'It's not my wish to die a wealthy man'. Finally it explains why he installed Jonjo at Jackdaws.
 
davidjohnson said:
Thought the interesting quote was in the article was 'It's not my wish to die a wealthy man'. Finally it explains why he installed Jonjo at Jackdaws.
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\:lol: That's naughty.

I think the fact they have been friends since God knows when and Jonjo saved his bacon once has a lot to do with it but what a fantastic job Jonjo has done considering he has to peek out his bedroom window every morning to see if another mule has been tied to the gatepost with a sign saying "train this" tied round it's neck.
 
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Amazing... A fine read. .

What iv noticed from reading here of late thou is, some people some to reply to the poster rather than the post.
 
Dicie said:
Amazing... A fine read. .

What iv noticed from reading here of late thou is, some people some to reply to the poster rather than the post.
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I'd expected to read essays from boys to remain 'credibile'. If you can't say it in four sentences chances are you're guessing.
 
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