Tingle Creek Chase

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Seven runners declared for Tingle Creek: Sprinter Sacre, Sanctuaire, Kumbeshwar, Idarah, Kinkeel, Doeslessthanme and His Excellency.
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poor old kinkeel
 
I don't imagine Sprinter Sacre will be undercooked for this. It should be quite a race between them. Let's hope both turn up as fit as a butcher's dog and run their race.
 
At a NH season preview at Cheltenham Racecourse before the Open Lee Mottershead reckoned the whole 2m season would be defined during this race when they tackle the seven fences down the back, as Sanctuaire will be bombing over them as he has done before and it will be the first time Sprinter Sacre will have had his jumping under pressure as he daren't let Sanctuaire get too far ahead. Any mistakes and having his confidence dented could change his whole season. Of course if he does handle it, then he should win every target laid before him in the future.

If Sanctuaire is going to beat him this season, this will be the day.
 
i wonder if sanctuaire does manage to win if we'll get a nice price about ss for the champion chase
 
Anything Lee Mottershed says can be easily dismissed. Every race defines the next race, that's just the way it is.

I highly doubt this is the first time Sprinter Sacre will have his jumping tested - didn't he win an Arkle as easy as you'd like, from the likes of Cue Card, Al Ferof and Menorah, all winners of big races subsequently? I would say this is the first time Sanctuaire will have his jumping tested.

Sanctuaire has one piece of form which could allow him to get relatively close to Sprinter Sacre. This is more likely to be a misleadind end of season piece of form, imho.

1/2 is a knocking good bet.
 
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Hamm said:
Anything Lee Mottershed says can be easily dismissed. Every race defines the next race, that's just the way it is.

I highly doubt this is the first time Sprinter Sacre will have his jumping tested - didn't he win an Arkle as easy as you'd like, from the likes of Cue Card, Al Ferof and Menorah, all winners of big races subsequently? I would say this is the first time Sanctuaire will have his jumping tested.

Sanctuaire has one piece of form which could allow him to get relatively close to Sprinter Sacre. This is more likely to be a misleadind end of season piece of form, imho.

1/2 is a knocking good bet.
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The only horse that ran up to any way like his best form in the Arkle was Cue Card. Becuase Al Ferof tried to carry the ditch with him and then won the Paddy Power subsequently doesnt make the Arkle a better race.

I think Santuaire would need to jump brilliantly if he is to have any chance.
 
The official going on Saturday will be interesting. We know Sanctuaire sluices through the soft - do we know the same of Sprinter Sacre?
 
HawkWing said:
The only horse that ran up to any way like his best form in the Arkle was Cue Card. Becuase Al Ferof tried to carry the ditch with him and then won the Paddy Power subsequently doesnt make the Arkle a better race.

I think Santuaire would need to jump brilliantly if he is to have any chance.
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Al Ferof was about to be overtaken by Sprinter Sacre when this happened so point is the same.
 
Sanctuaire is well suited to Sandown and looks a serious horse but Sprinter Sacre looks something special , I think Nicky Henderson will have him ready and he should win.
 
Hamm said:
Al Ferof was about to be overtaken by Sprinter Sacre when this happened so point is the same.
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If Al Ferof ran the same race in the Arkle and the Paddy Power there would be a point.

Its a point that holds as much water as looking at French Opera's form behind Santuaire and Sprinter Sacre last year.

The open mouth gasped reaction that a novice could beat solid handicapper in receipt of only 5lbs in the Game Spirit in such style compared to the 20l defeat off levels at Sandown.
 
chroniclandlord said:
Sanctuaire is more likely to have his jumping tested than Sprinter Sacre, Sanctuaire was flattered at Sandown in April.
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I'm not sure about this..if Sanctuaire does what he did last time his jumping will come under no more scrutiny than then..he doesn't see another horse so in effect doesn't get added pressure..its those behind looking at his arse in the distance that will be under scrutiny by being asked to catch..imo a horse like S jumps without pressure at his own pace

it may be that SS can carry him and win..but FTO in what will be a stamina test is not easy..does SS stay further than 2 miles when asked to race at a faster pace than he has been asked before?

if ever was a time to take him on..its this race imo

i would love him to win easily..but for those who ever want to lay him..then Saturday is the day
 
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Agree that Sanctuaire has a lot in his favour, and it's likely his best ever chance of toppling SS. However, he's also overrated, and won't be halfway good enough.
It's alright serving it up to the likes of Wishfull Thinking and Somersby - for whom a stiff 2m would be an absolute minimum - but nothing SS has met has been fast enough to get him off the bridle, and neither will this one.
Be amazed if there's not more than 10l in it, even in Sanctuaire's own back yard.
 
I'd like to see a close race between the two just to make the 2m division a little more interesting this season. Outside of Sprinter Sacre and Sanctuire there's nothing else to excited about over 2m with Sizing Europe getting on in age now.
 
I'm not really sure who will win but with a gun to my head I'd pick Sprinter.

Having said that I expect Sanctuaire to give him a race. Geraghty's tactics will be interesting and I couldn't back Sprinter at the price.
 
I've had a gander at the form. I think it would be very dangerous to take Sanctuaire's Sandown win at face value although he most certainly was visually incredibly impressive. However, the bare form falls 6lbs short of the OR he was given for it so the handicapper also factored in the ease of victory.

Sprinter Sacre won at least as easily three far better races (Newbury, Cheltenham, Aintree) posting figures 10lbs higher.

I couldn't back him at long odds-on nor could I see the point of backing Sanctuaire to beat him unless the odds were genuinely silly, which they won't be. On the other hand, Nicholls isn't one to call his George Galloways George Clooneys so his very bullish remarks about his horse have to be respected.
 
I don't buy the view that Somersby didn't run his race at Sandown.

He got outpaced and stayed on as usual without ever threatening. He was a Grade 1 winner earlier in the season and even if he ran a couple of lbs below his best it's still a hell of a performance by Sanctuaire.

I wouldn't have said SS's Newbury win was any better than Sanctuaire's celebration win.
 
Candy-floss, hoopla and pikeys.

I can't have it Aragorn.

That meeting is no kind of a test, imo; simply because the top-echelon horses are either already out at grass, heading to Punchestown, or are over the top for the season. It was a typically clever bit of placing by Nicholls; a valuable pot for a progressive novice, who's going in against doughty handicappers hoping to get a bit of prize-money.....or chancers.

It was easy pickings. The race is like an ITV4 version of the better spring races for 2m chasers, and routinely takes little winning.

Sanctuaire looks a fine young chaser - no doubt - but Sprinter Sacre is surely a sh*tload better than the 3lbs the official handicapper would suggest. The Arkle form could not have been better franked, and regardless of all the positive vibes coming out of Ditcheat and the respectful noises coming out of Seven Barrows, I will be amazed (and no little gutted) if Sprinter Sacre doesn't simply wipe his arse with Sanctuaire.
 
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I don't buy the view that Somersby didn't run his race at Sandown.

He got outpaced and stayed on as usual without ever threatening. He was a Grade 1 winner earlier in the season and even if he ran a couple of lbs below his best it's still a hell of a performance by Sanctuaire.

I wouldn't have said SS's Newbury win was any better than Sanctuaire's celebration win.
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Dan Breen's run shows somersby didn't run to his mark though
 
Aragorn said:
I don't buy the view that Somersby didn't run his race at Sandown.

He got outpaced and stayed on as usual without ever threatening. He was a Grade 1 winner earlier in the season and even if he ran a couple of lbs below his best it's still a hell of a performance by Sanctuaire.

I wouldn't have said SS's Newbury win was any better than Sanctuaire's celebration win.
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Depends how you look at it, Aragorn.
Somersby's never been a quick 2 miler, and was miles off the pace in this race; Sanctuaire was home and hosed before he was asked for his effort, and he just managed to overcome the modest Dan Breen.
Sprinter Sacre has oodles more speed than Somersby, and Sanctuaire shouldn't get anything like the easy lead he had previous.
 
the main question anyone backing Sanctuaire might have to ask themselves is will the horse have come to himself so soon in the year.

record from September to December = 53- f3- 855
record from January onwards = 113- 71P- 111-

I couldn't be backing him tbh looking at that..think i will just watch and enjoy
 
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