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I watched the whole interview on RTV catch-up.

I have to admit I can 'get' where the guy is coming from in general.

It is pretty obvious who the trainer and jockey are but I would be surprised if the vast majority of trainers aren't the same and would do the same if the jockey was attached to them. I don't think - and he didn't suggest - that it makes them less of a trainer or the rider less of a jockey.

But that segment was only a fraction of the entire interview.

I couldn't find it on Youtube but I would suggest that there are enough clues on here for people to know who he's talking about without actually going and searching for it, especially since it's only a minute or two of an interview that goes for over half an hour.

For me, the over-riding takeout from the interview is his criticism of racing in general being very lacking in transparency, something I wholeheartedly agree with.
 
Desert Orchid said:
I watched the whole interview on RTV catch-up.

I have to admit I can 'get' where the guy is coming from in general.

It is pretty obvious who the trainer and jockey are but I would be surprised if the vast majority of trainers aren't the same and would do the same if the jockey was attached to them. I don't think - and he didn't suggest - that it makes them less of a trainer or the rider less of a jockey.

But that segment was only a fraction of the entire interview.

I couldn't find it on Youtube but I would suggest that there are enough clues on here for people to know who he's talking about without actually going and searching for it, especially since it's only a minute or two of an interview that goes for over half an hour.

For me, the over-riding takeout from the interview is his criticism of racing in general being very lacking in transparency, something I wholeheartedly agree with.
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Kia must be a very smart guy, but I thought the interview was somewhat incoherent and unsatisfactory. Nick Luck was not on top form yesterday and that didn’t help either. He usually allows his guests free rein to speak, but seemed to want to say a bit too much and interrupted when he might have let Kia get into full flow (he did so with Eve Johnston-Houghton too).

Kia was bemoaning the lack of clarity in the sport, but I didn’t think he provided much of that himself and I got the impression he had come on to make a couple of points.

It probably isn’t difficult to work out who the Trainer and Jockey he is referring to are. My assumption would point to a Trainer who I would think would be one of the very best in terms of Staff Welfare and the stable have a record of producing young talent and continuing long term relationships with them. Even though it is one of the largest stables in the country, it is still by most measures a small business and there is only so much they can do for someone with addiction problems. In the end, it is up to the individual. I didn’t get the impression that Kia had a solution, beyond more clarity and setting up his own charity to help people in the industry (which seemed to come to him on the way to the studio). More clarity, would possibly be the worst thing to shine upon the jockeys problems and he seemed unaware of Racing Welfare and what they do. With Jockey’s, I would have thought the drug testing programmes would at some stage highlight those with problems too, especially if they ride internationally.

I think he is right about some in the media having an agenda with him though. It would be interesting to know why.

From the outside, it looks like this season so far, is very disappointing for Amo, but there is a long way to go. He seems comfortable with the strategy, but it does look very high risk to me. I hope he succeeds though and can break into the big boys.
 
I like Nick, but he repeatedly interrupts his guests which does not allow them to finish off what they are trying to say
 
Very obvious who he is talking about and much as he is a hothead he is correct in how racing throw certain folk under the bus. The trainer in question should maybe look in the mirror and reflect on his behaviour over the years. Too many times not handled things well imho.
 
PlaceBacker said:
I like Nick, but he repeatedly interrupts his guests which does not allow them to finish off what they are trying to say
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Nick has done some incredible interviews on the Sunday morning show over the years but I got the impression he was trying to avoid uncomfortable silences with Kia yesterday.Kia is volatile -Nick is a polished horse racing presenter on three continents.
 
In all fairness, if every trainer operated the way Barney Curley did, the entire sport would have collapsed inside a year.

Fair play to Curley for working racing the way he did, and getting away with it, but he was actually one of the biggest take-out merchants of the lot - and no one involved in that infamous interview had it in them to stand up to him and say it to his face.

Curley gave something back to life and racing with charity work and helping people out, but, for me, that doesn't exonerate him from making most races he had runners in no-go areas for any punter who likes to give occasional credence to the form book.
 
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Ian_Davies said:
In all fairness, if every trainer operated the way Barney Curley did, the entire sport would have collapsed inside a year.

Fair play to Curley for working racing the way he did, and getting away with it, but he was actually one of the biggest take-out merchants of the lot - and no one involved in that infamous interview had it in them to stand up to him and say it to his face.

Curley gave something back to life and racing with charity work and helping people out, but, for me, that doesn't exonerate him from making most races he had runners in no-go areas for any punter who likes to give occasional credence to the form book.
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I certainly don't think Curley was perfect but I don't believe he was a take out merchant.He did good work with Dettori,Spencer,Murtagh and Queally -it's easy to say so what but look at how Pat Eddery and Walter Swinburn ended up.
I don't think there is any comparison between raising millions for Africa and landing gambles in low grade handicaps.
 
Curley at least gave back which unfortunately very few do. I coached for 10 years, mostly with kids from tough areas, giving kids who otherwise could have been up to all sorts of mischief and bother an outlet. That was me giving back and I'm very proud a lot of the kids thanked me for helping them. You don't have to do large things to help folk. And it can be very rewarding all round.
 
Didn't Curley's generosity and charity work come quite late in life?

That's at least the impression I got from the programme about him. He seemed to regret a lot of the things he'd done 'on the way up' and seemed keen to set matters straight with people he'd 'used' or offended.

Happy to be corrected if my impression is wrong.
 
Sounds about right. I'm sure we've all done things we've regretted. On his lifes scorecard maybe a b minus. He dis loads for others and that to me is a huge plus.
 
Desert Orchid said:
Didn't Curley's generosity and charity work come quite late in life?

That's at least the impression I got from the programme about him. He seemed to regret a lot of the things he'd done 'on the way up' and seemed keen to set matters straight with people he'd 'used' or offended.

Happy to be corrected if my impression is wrong.
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As far as I know he started DAFA very soon after the death of his son in 1995.
 


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