York Ebor Meeting 2020

Come on then. Roll on day two. Unlucky today Rajinsky who ran another belter.

The Queen will be pleased to know she can win the listed race for trainer William Haggas, (yes, Haggas), with Award Scheme who keeps improving.
 
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reet hard said:
Wednesday

1.45Jawwaal looks the business, but that's reflected in his price. Have bet Jonah Jones ew who wasn't far behind him, and is 9lb better in.
14/1 6 places Wm Hill.

2.45 Darain Appears to be flying a bit high, but beautifully bred for the job, and JG doesn't tilt at windmills.
7/2 Wm Hill

3.15 Ghaiyyath. 11/8

3.45 Just in time Been off for 2 years, but ran pretty close to his Mallard winning rating on his recent re-appearance. Still young for a stayer, and first time pieces offer hope he'll improve for that debut.
14/1 5 places.

4.20 Lady In France won a good Ayr listed last backend and take it on trust her recent spin was a warm-up for connection's home track.
11/1 4 places bet fair.

That's as many bets as I'd have in a normal week, hope there's profit in them somewhere.
Luck to all.
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2 winners & a 14/1 place from 5 bets ensures a good start. Plenty of rain forecast for this evening, so 3 cautious bets for Thursday:
2.15 Happy Romance 5/1 - 4places b365
2.45 Montatham 8/1 - 5 places betfair
3.45 Lady G 13/2 4places betfair.
 
Love needs taking on with the ground coming up soft. I don't rate Frankonia and One Voice looks a questionable stayer so I've dutched Frankly Darling and Manuela De Vega and also backed the latter in the w/o fav market just in case I'm tilting at windmills. She will relish this test and 5/1 sans Love is tidy.
 
I figured that Rab Havlin would ride the Gosden preferred - where did you get the w/o Love odds from, Euro?
 
Good luck fellas.

Ouzo (2.45) is decent odds in the handicap, he looks dangerous after recently being gelded although this is his third season in training so he hasn't had the operation that quickly into his career. He has some decent form though. If getting the chop rejuvenated him I could see him running a big race.
 
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Marb said:
Good luck fellas.

Ouzo (2.45) is decent odds in the handicap, he looks dangerous after recently being gelded although this is his third season in training so he hasn't had the operation that quickly into his career. He has some decent form though. If getting the chop rejuvenated him I could see him running a big race.
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2:45 Handicap

Ouzo (Sean Levey)

He’s an extremely consistent horse who is probably paying the price for it as the handicapper has him exactly where he wants him, but he’s a very talented horse and has been gelded since his last run at Royal Ascot. This long, flat straight will suit his running style and he seems in fantastic form at home. R.HANNON
 
luckyme said:
2:45 Handicap

Ouzo (Sean Levey)

He’s an extremely consistent horse who is probably paying the price for it as the handicapper has him exactly where he wants him, but he’s a very talented horse and has been gelded since his last run at Royal Ascot. This long, flat straight will suit his running style and he seems in fantastic form at home. R.HANNON
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Cheers. Strong in the betting, in to 16s now, and I have had done an each way single and double with Award Scheme. Fingers crossed.
 
Only 5.4 mm of rain in the last 24hrs; with a strong breeze, it's likely the ground will ride pretty much the same as yesterday.
 
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My bet today will be combinations, probably a simple yankee,

Devious Company
Montatham
Award Scheme
Rhoscolyn

I'll also have a decent single on Dev Com who could win as easily as Mum's Tipple last year. Good thing.

I'll have a small bet on Noorban in the first. I thought she was way better than the margin of victory on debut (fell out of stalls) and Sacred is too short for a competitive contest. 15s exchange.
 
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Desert Orchid said:
I think this opens the door to the kind of debate that would serve the forum well, Barjon.

Which constitutes the better bet, Sacred as above or Devious Company in the Sales race?

1.45 SKY BET LOWTHER STAKES (GROUP 2)
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[TD]No.[/TD]
[TD]Dr[/TD]
[TD]Form[/TD]
[TD]Horse[/TD]
[TD]Stats[/TD]
[TD]Age[/TD]
[TD]Weight[/TD]
[TD]Trainer[/TD]
[TD]Jockey[/TD]
[TD]OR[/TD]
[TD]TS[/TD]
[TD]RPR[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] 7 [/TD]
[TD] 12 [/TD]
[TD]12 [/TD]
[TD] Sacred[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]2 [/TD]
[TD]9-0 [/TD]
[TD]William Haggas[/TD]
[TD]Tom Marquand[/TD]
[TD]104 [/TD]
[TD]114 [/TD]
[TD]118 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] 8 [/TD]
[TD] 10 [/TD]
[TD]131 [/TD]
[TD] Santosha[/TD]
[TD]D [/TD]
[TD]2 [/TD]
[TD]9-0 [/TD]
[TD]David Loughnane[/TD]
[TD]Thomas Greatrex[/TD]
[TD]103 [/TD]
[TD]105 [/TD]
[TD]117 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] 3 [/TD]
[TD] 2 [/TD]
[TD]152 [/TD]
[TD] Hala Hala Hala[/TD]
[TD]t 1 D [/TD]
[TD]2 [/TD]
[TD]9-0 [/TD]
[TD]Kevin Ryan[/TD]
[TD]William Buick[/TD]
[TD]100 [/TD]
[TD]102 [/TD]
[TD]115 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] 4 [/TD]
[TD] 8 [/TD]
[TD]74121 [/TD]
[TD] Miss Amulet[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]2 [/TD]
[TD]9-0 [/TD]
[TD]K J Condon[/TD]
[TD]James Doyle[/TD]
[TD]103 [/TD]
[TD]97 [/TD]
[TD]112 [/TD]
[/TR]
</tbody>[/TABLE]

2.15 GOFFS UK PREMIER YEARLING STAKES

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[TD]No.[/TD]
[TD]Dr[/TD]
[TD]Form[/TD]
[TD]Horse[/TD]
[TD]Age[/TD]
[TD]Weight[/TD]
[TD]Trainer[/TD]
[TD]Jockey[/TD]
[TD]OR[/TD]
[TD]TS[/TD]
[TD]RPR[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] 6 [/TD]
[TD] 3 [/TD]
[TD]1122 [/TD]
[TD] Devious Company[/TD]
[TD]2 [/TD]
[TD]9-0 [/TD]
[TD]Tom Dascombe[/TD]
[TD]Richard Kingscote[/TD]
[TD]107 [/TD]
[TD]106 [/TD]
[TD]120 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] 14 [/TD]
[TD] 11 [/TD]
[TD]359 [/TD]
[TD] Painless Potter[/TD]
[TD]2 [/TD]
[TD]9-0 [/TD]
[TD]Alan King[/TD]
[TD]Martin Harley[/TD]
[TD]94 [/TD]
[TD]78 [/TD]
[TD]107 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] 8 [/TD]
[TD] 2 [/TD]
[TD]6151 [/TD]
[TD] Happy Romance[/TD]
[TD]2 [/TD]
[TD]9-0 [/TD]
[TD]Richard Hannon[/TD]
[TD]Sean Levey[/TD]
[TD]92 [/TD]
[TD]98 [/TD]
[TD]105 [/TD]
[/TR]
</tbody>[/TABLE]

Sacred's race is very tight on the numbers between the top four.

Devious Company is miles clear.

Both are generally 2/1 with only one bookie going 9/4 about Sacred at the moment.

Which is the better bet?
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I suppose the question is now academic but Miss Amulet was available at 14/1 earlier this morning. Rated just 1lb (ORs) behind the hotpot, the value was there to be seen.

As for Devious Company, I wouldn't say I was in shock but I am in financial pain. I'm not convinced it was the trip that was the problem. He has shown good pace in better company but struggled to lay up here. I honestly expected him to make all. Probably more of an off day than anything else and beaten by the next best on the figures.
 
Desert Orchid said:
The handicaps are shaping up as much more competitive than anything we saw at Ascot or Goodwood but the course tends to mitigate against very close finishes. I'll be getting the scattergun out too!
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The Clipper Logistics race exemplifies what I meant. It was very hard for anything to come from off the pace there and the longshots had no chance of getting involved from down the field.

The class horses raced prominently and fought out the final stages.
 
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I would caution anyone against opposing Love.

If I was a big-hitting professional I might want to back her.

John Gosden said all that needed to be said the other day when explaining why Enable isn't running. He said both she and Love would have hard races here if both ran. There's no way Enable would miss this if Love was absent so Gosden is telling us Love is a class apart from the rest.
 
Yes if I'd seen Miss Amulet that well backed when I had put my bet on I may well have chosen it.

Ouzo ran 5th, needless to say it looks like I lost out on the each way terms having done him with bet 365, who it looks like went one quarter the odds the first four.

Sod my luck.

Well done Al who had Montatham. Hopefully Award Scheme goes in.
 
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Desert Orchid said:
The Clipper Logistics race exemplifies what I meant. It was very hard for anything to come from off the pace there and the longshots had no chance of getting involved from down the field.

The class horses raced prominently and fought out the final stages.
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Don'cha just love York races.:p
 
I am seriously hoping for the dead eight runners in the Nunthorpe tomorrow as Moss Gill (E/W) will out run the odds of 50/1(Hills), to possibly get a place depending on how the big three do.

A few may remember when I mentioned Moss Gill the last day, especially Danny who thought it needed better ground. It's definately a big if, but if one or two don't run their best races Moss Gill I believe will run the race of his life, having shown a real liking for York both last season plus on his most recent run in a listed race. I cannot see him out the first four let's put it like that.

You simply never know what may get scratched as a non runner before the race. Let's hope the racing gods are with me on this bet. Its a shame there wasn't an extra runner in there now as a little bit of insurance against it happening.

The same comment applies to the handicap later on the card where there's eight runners again. Mick Channon trains an interesting filly called Dalanijujo (E/W) who likes to race prominently as she did when winning first time up in a maiden. Maurice pointed this out as a good attribute to have here at York. This horse didn't do a lot after that win but has returned to form the last twice, racing prominently or tracking leaders once again. I reckon she will love stepping up in grade and the progressive trajectory looks good now carrying a featherweight.
 
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2/3 today, and another good day at the offy
Just 2 for Friday:
Restorer 1.45 beaten by quick injection of pace in a dawdling race at Chester. Better test around a better track here, and jockey unlikely to be caught napping.
Bet of the meeting for me, 13/2 generally.

Wallyak 4.15. Pulled too hard off a steady pace on her first try at the trip, shouldn't be a problem in this race.
7/2 Wm Hill.
 
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Desert Orchid said:
I suppose the question is now academic but Miss Amulet was available at 14/1 earlier this morning. Rated just 1lb (ORs) behind the hotpot, the value was there to be seen.

As for Devious Company, I wouldn't say I was in shock but I am in financial pain. I'm not convinced it was the trip that was the problem. He has shown good pace in better company but struggled to lay up here. I honestly expected him to make all. Probably more of an off day than anything else and beaten by the next best on the figures.
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You share may pain with Sacred, then!! I mention Devious Company in the Noted in Running thread. He seemed taken off his legs a bit to me, but he wasn’t helped by a somewhat tardy getaway.
 
My confidence in Juan Elcano yesterday turned out to be seriously misplaced so I'm hoping the same fate doesn't befall Grand Rock 12/1 in the 4.50.

The handicapper seems to be getting quite a good grip on this season's 3yo handicappers but there are grounds for believing Grand Rock is under his radar.

Grand Rock pulled hard at Ascot in the big handicap won by Highland Chief but can be marked up as he kicked too soon and was swallowed up late. Back in trip here, if he can get a softish lead and kick on early they might not get to him at this track and we know how much Haggas likes to win here. The first-time cheekpieces might help. The chances are he’s been targeting this since Ascot and his subsequent run at Newmarket was probably to get him back under the radar. He's a decent price, I reckon.
 
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