Ante-Post Punting Plans/Propositions Thread.

Yes I won't be parting with any cash to back What's The Story until Friday or Saturday, he's not a certainty, but definitely as good an each way long shot as I can find in the entries at the moment. I already threw away 20 each way on Mafaaheem anti-post. Off on a slight tangent, I have made the most of a spare hour I have just had to look through the Ceserewitch. Tony Martin has the favourite in Stratum, but I like his other runner at the bottom of the weights, Newcross. Ticks a few boxes, (improver since gelded, changed trainer). The form of his second place has worked out well with the winner scoring in more valuable race since. Newcross is so low in the weights though, that I wouldn't want to back him until I could be confident he would a) make the cut..b) be declared. He has the potential to be a dark horse at the foot of the weights though. See how it goes. He is on my radar.
 
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I have to back Whats the story as well and 40/1 is too big.i put him up for the Lincoln after impressing me at Doncaster the previous year..
Bit disappointed to see Queally on tbh.hes one of these jockeys that dont give it everything if he cant win.imo.

The other one for me is RAISING SAND 40/1 this one was eyecatching in the royal hunt cup.and with Nicole Currie taking 3lb off hes better of with afaak and whats the story.the problem is he always seems to run like that.will need luck as usual and drawn 35 and whats the story is drawn 2.
 
Raising Sand is one of my tracker horses (from the Hunt Cup). I have to question whether he's been off an inch since then but there was some promise in his latest run. I won't be getting involved until the day, though.
 
2000 Guineas

Cape of Good Hope 25/1

Runs in the Royal Lodge on Saturday at Newmarket. The stables horses have been under a cloud all season but lately have been starting to purr along again. They've kept this one for the end of the season for a reason. Even without thinking that his form is very fair but factoring in that he is likely to come on lumps makes him a different proposition. We just might see something very smart on Saturday and that 25/1 will look very silly.
 
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Anyone care to give an assessment of Mordin, (the horse not the man!). I am looking through the list trying to find the one to be on e/w. Mordin has been second about five times in lesser handicaps from what I can see. Wonder if they will stick some headgear on...
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Declared with new headgear on. So will take him and What's The Story against the field.
 
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Marble said:
Declared with new headgear on. So will take him and What's The Story against the field.
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Mordin subject of a gamble from 40/1 into 14/1 already. This definately has to carry most of my stake money. All very interesting.
 
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Marble said:
I have made the most of a spare hour I have just had to look through the Ceserewitch. Willie Mullins has the favourite in Stratum, but I like Newcross. Ticks a few boxes, (improver since gelded, changed trainer). The form of his second place has worked out well with the winner scoring in more valuable race since. Newcross is so low in the weights though, that I wouldn't want to back him until I could be confident he would a) make the cut..b) be declared. He has the potential to be a dark horse at the foot of the weights though. See how it goes. He is on my radar.
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I honestly think this horse will improve a lot next Saturday, if he gets better ground, as his disappointments in Mickey Mouse maiden events in Ireland were on heavy. He is only rated 80, so I don't think anyone could argue he is badly handicapped for a tilt at a race of this nature. The question is whether he will make the cut, (assuming connections want to declare him), and that he hasn't just been entered up for the scenery, which happens too often for my liking these days on the flat.
 
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Desert Orchid said:
I'll be looking very closely at whatever John Gosden runs in the Cambs.

I thought maybe he was trying to get Stylehunter a penalty yesterday to get him up the weights but the rain put paid to that. If he has anything else lined up for the race it must be taken very seriously. A 5lb penalty would have taken him from 52 in the list to about 25 and got him straight in. Gosden also has Wissahickon and Tricorn (same owner as Stylehunter) safely making the cut.
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Did I back any of them?

Did I fvck.

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Marble said:
I honestly think this horse will improve a lot next Saturday, if he gets better ground, as his disappointments in Mickey Mouse maiden events in Ireland were on heavy. He is only rated 80, so I don't think anyone could argue he is badly handicapped for a tilt at a race of this nature. The question is whether he will make the cut, (assuming connections want to declare him), and that he hasn't just been entered up for the scenery, which happens too often for my liking these days on the flat.
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I Trackered this myself after your recent post on the horse, I wouldn't be confident about him making the cut for the Ces but we all the know the trainers reputation so he's definitely worth keeping an eye on wherever he turns up.
 
Yes, was staying on stoutly in both those two latest handicaps in Ireland. I have just realised the Ceserewitch is not this Saturday but the one after aswell.
 
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fonz said:
I Trackered this myself after your recent post on the horse, I wouldn't be confident about him making the cut for the Ces but we all the know the trainers reputation so he's definitely worth keeping an eye on wherever he turns up.
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I was just looking through last few renewals. I noticed the last five winners of The Cesarewitch all carried low eight stones in weight. But the lowest rated horses were generally between 84-86, so on this evidence, Newcross on 80 frustratingly won't get in. Unless the English handicapper was to raise him a few pounds, given the mark of 80 is his Irish mark? But I don't know how all that works. Do we know the official weights yet?
 
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Euronymous said:
Sun Chariot. Laurens is a bit of a public horse nowadays and she's high class at 10f but think she's vulnerable over a mile. The Matron didn't take as much winning as perceived and she's one to take on. The French have a great record in this race and With You is the bet. She ran on again after being headed by Alpha C and Recoletos in the Marois and I hope she isn't asked to lead in this. 6/1 very fair.
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Fabre has pulled With You but supplemented Wind Chimes who also has form with Recoletos. She's 7/1 and that's a cracking ew bet.
 
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Fabre has pulled With You but supplemented Wind Chimes who also has form with Recoletos. She's 7/1 and that's a cracking ew bet.
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With You possibly being aimed at the QE2?
3/1 Recoletos is an atrocious price.
 
She's also in the l'opera although would be a dodgy stayer over that trip.

Dunno about Recoletos. On the one hand he ran a turd of a race in the Queen Anne but there were excuses that day. Also, the field he faces could be really bad. Beat the Bank and ******* Lord Glitters etc.
 
I may have an anti post bet on William Haggas's Canford Heights for The Old Rowley Cup next week. He beat a horse back into third that I mentioned last week on the 'what are you backing thread', called Fannie By Gaslight, who I reckon is an excellent yardstick. Canford Heights just has the one entry, in The Old Rowley Cup, and could remain a fair bit ahead of the handicapper. There is quite a bit of disparity in terms of odds available, with some firms happy to offer 16/1, but with Hills only 10/1.
 
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I like the look of Cliffs Of Capri in The Challenge Cup this Saturday. This has good course form, having won a class 3 here at Ascot in July, was then a staying in fifth behind Ripp Orf. He does look one of the better handicapped horses in the field and looks open to plenty of progress. Seems like Jamie Osborne has two good cards to play with him having Raising Sand in the race aswell.
 
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