Bloodstock 2011

[Miesque]

...that they're dodgy, or that it's questionable they are legs!

Over at the knee, long pasterns, underrun heels, weak second thigh, poor hock angulation....

 

[Miesque]

The time difference isn't what it used to be.....

I went racing instead.....! Nearly done, will be up in the next hour or two.

 

[jinnyj]

Over at the knee I can cope with - do agree his pasterns are on the long side and about heels. But I have seen alot worse! Probably trainable so long as you don't hammer him - how straight is he from the front?

 

[cjboy]

There's a lot of decent racehorses a bit forward at the knee.

 

[SteveM]

Over at the knee, long pasterns, underrun heels, weak second thigh, poor hock angulation....

Dodgy indeed... Mark Johnston is a bit of a specialist in knowing if such defects will stop it running (he'll buy horses cheaply that others wouldn't touch with a bargepole, with some success)... but i'll admit it doesn't look good to me. Novelty value only I'd guess.

 

[Miesque]

Acclamation Avg - 195,000 7 sold
Arch Avg - 145,000 2 sold
Authorized Avg - 81,000 7 sold
Azamour Avg - 70,000 1 sold

Bahamian Bounty Avg - 55,000 2 sold
Bernardini Avg - 40,000 1 sold
Byron Avg - 34,000 1 sold

Cape cross Avg -151,889 18 sold

Dalakhani Avg - 172,666 9 sold
Danehill Dancer Avg - 189,000 14 sold
Dansili Avg - 197,500 6 sold
Dark Angel Avg - 122,500 2 sold
Dubawi Avg - 166,666 6 sold
Duke of Marmalade Avg - 94,000 24 sold
Dutch Art Avg - 59,000 4 sold
Dylan Thomas Avg - 110,000 1 sold

Elnadim Avg - 37,000 1 sold
Elusive City Avg - 105,000 1 sold
Elusive Qulaity Avg - 176,666 3 sold
Exceed & Excel Avg - 108,307 13 sold
Excellent art Avg - 77,200 5 sold

Firebreak Avg - 70,000 1 sold
Footstepsinthesand Avg - 65,000 1 sold

Galileo Avg - 263,478 23 sold
Ghostzapper Avg - 65,000 1 sold
Giant's Causeway Avg - 85,000 4 sold
Green Desert Avg - 56,666 3 sold

Halling Avg - 65,000 1 sold
Henrythenavigator Avg - 103,000 5 sold
High Chaparral Avg - 32,500 2 sold
Holy Roman Emperor Avg - 52,666 3 sold
Hurricane Run Avg - 105,000 2 sold

Iffraaj Avg - 145,000 1 sold
Indesatchel Avg - 38,000 1 sold
Invincible Spirit Avg - 131,687 16 sold

Jeremy Avg - 60,000 1 sold

Kheleyf Avg - 220,000 1 sold
Kyllachy Avg - 137,750 4 sold

Lawman Avg - 66,666 3 sold
Lemon Drop Kid Avg - 115,000 3 sold

Manduro Avg - 65,000 2 sold
Medaglia Avg - 85,000 2 sold
Medicean Avg - 61,000 3 sold
Mizzen Mast Avg - 55,000 1 sold
Montjeu Avg - 215,800 10 sold
Motivator Avg - 42,500 2 sold
Mount Nelson Avg - 103,333 3 sold
Majadil Avg - 75,000 1 sold
Multiplex Avg - 145,000 1 sold

Nayef Avg - 114,000 4 sold
New Approach Avg - 176,375 16 sold

Oasis Dream Avg - 202,500 14 sold

Peintre Celebre Avg - 135,000 1 sold
Pivotal Avg - 153,400 15 sold

Raven's Pass Avg - 138,700 10 sold
Red Clubs Avg - 64,000 3 sold
Rock Of Gibraltar Avg - 140,000 3 sold
Royal Applause Avg - 132,250 4 sold

Sakhee Avg - 75,000 1 sold
Sakhee's Secret Avg - 52,000 1 sold
Selkirk Avg - 180,000 1 sold
Shamardal Avg - 135,727 11 sold
Shirocco Avg - 54,000 2 sold
Singspiel Avg - 76,200 5 sold
Sir Percy Avg - 80,200 5 sold
Sixties Icon Avg - 58,000 1 sold
Speightstown Avg - 65,000 1 sold
Stormy Atlantic Avg - 76,000 2 sold
Street Cry Avg - 200,000 1 sold

Tagula Avg - 55,000 1 sold
Tamayuz Avg - 80,000 5 sold
Teofilo Avg - 91,000 16 sold

Zamindar Avg - 86,000 3 sold

 

[Irish Stamp]

Thanks Miesque and hope you chopped it at the track

 

[Miesque]

RATHBARRY
Acclamation Avg - 195,000 7 sold
Tagula Avg - 55,000 1 sold
Average return: 152,500

DARLEY
Cape cross Avg -151,889 18 sold
Halling Avg - 65,000 1 sold
Kheleyf Avg - 220,000 1 sold
Manduro Avg - 65,000 2 sold
Raven's Pass Avg - 138,700 10 sold
Royal Applause Avg - 132,250 4 sold
Shirocco Avg - 54,000 2 sold
Teofilo Avg - 91,000 16 sold
Authorized Avg - 81,000 7 sold
Dubawi Avg - 166,666 6 sold
Exceed & Excel Avg - 108,307 13 sold
Iffraaj Avg - 145,000 1 sold
New Approach Avg - 176,375 16 sold
Shamardal Avg - 135,727 11 sold
Elusive Quality Avg - 176,666 3 sold
Bernardini Avg - 40,000 1 sold
Medaglia D'Oro Avg - 85,000 2 sold
Street Cry Avg - 200,000 1 sold
Exceed & Excel Avg - 108,307 13 sold
Singspiel Avg - 76,200 5 sold
Average return: 136,010

CLAIBORNE FARM
Arch Avg - 145,000 2 sold
Average return: 145,000

GILLTOWN
Azamour Avg - 70,000 1 sold
Dalakhani[/B] Avg - 172,666 9 sold
Average return: 121,333

NATIONAL STUD
Bahamian Bounty Avg - 55,000 2 sold
Average return: 55,000

IRISH NATIONAL STUD
Invincible Spirit Avg - 131,687 16 sold
Jeremy Avg - 60,000 1 sold
Elusive City Avg - 105,000 1 sold
Average return: 98,895


COOLMORE
Danehill Dancer Avg - 189,000 14 sold
Duke of Marmalade Avg - 94,000 24 sold
Dylan Thomas Avg - 110,000 1 sold
Excellent art Avg - 77,200 5 sold
Footstepsinthesand Avg - 65,000 1 sold
Galileo Avg - 263,478 23 sold
Giant's Causeway Avg - 85,000 4 sold
Henrythenavigator Avg - 103,000 5 sold
High Chaparral Avg - 32,500 2 sold
Holy Roman Emperor Avg - 52,666 3 sold
Hurricane Run Avg - 105,000 2 sold
Montjeu Avg - 215,800 10 sold
Peintre Celebre Avg - 135,000 1 sold
Rock Of Gibraltar Avg - 140,000 3 sold
Average return: 119,117

WOODLANDS
Byron Avg - 34,000 1 sold
Average return: 34,000

CHEVELEY PARK
Dutch Art Avg - 59,000 4 sold
Kyllachy Avg - 137,750 4 sold
Medicean Avg - 61,000 3 sold
Pivotal Avg - 153,400 15 sold
Average return: 102,787

MORRISTOWN LATTIN
Dark Angel Avg - 122,500 2 sold
Average return:122,500


JUDDMONTE
Mizzen Mast Avg - 55,000 1 sold
Dansili Avg - 197,500 6 sold
Oasis Dream Avg - 202,500 14 sold
Zamindar Avg - 86,000 3 sold
Average return: 135,250

THE ROYAL STUDS
Motivator Avg - 42,500 2 sold
Averahe return: 42,500

NEWSELLS
Mount Nelson Avg - 103,333 3 sold
Average return: 103,333

MICKLEY STUD
Multiplex Avg - 145,000 1 sold
Average return: 145,000

DERRINSTOWN
Elnadim Avg - 37,000 1 sold
Tamayuz Avg - 80,000 5 sold
Average return: 58,500

BEARSTONE STUD
Firebreak Avg - 70,000 1 sold
Indesatchel Avg - 38,000 1 sold
Average return: 54,000

ADENA SPRINGS
Ghostzapper Avg - 65,000 1 sold
Average return: 65,000

SHADWELL
Green Desert Avg - 56,666 3 sold
Nayef Avg - 114,000 4 sold
Sakhee Avg - 75,000 1 sold
Average return: 81,888

WHITSBURY
Sakhee's Secret Avg - 52,000 1 sold
Average return: 52,000

BALLYLINCH
Lawman Avg - 66,666 3 sold
Average return: 66,666

LANE'S END
Lemon Drop Kid Avg - 115,000 3 sold
Average return: 115,000

RATHASKER
Majadil Avg - 75,000 1 sold
Average return: 75,000

TALLY-HO STUD
Red Clubs Avg - 64,000 3 sold
Average return: 64,000

LANWADES
Selkirk Avg - 180,000 1 sold
Sir Percy Avg - 80,200 5 sold
Average return: 130,100

NORMAN COURT
Sixties Icon Avg - 58,000 1 sold
Average return: 58,000

WINSTAR
Speightstown Avg - 65,000 1 sold
Average return: 65,000

HILL N' DALE
Stormy Atlantic Avg - 76,000 2 sold
Average return: 76,000

 

[On The Bridle]

Thanks Miesque - I will peruse it with great interest. I owe you a drink!!

 

[Miesque]

Thanks Miesque - I will peruse it with great interest. I owe you a drink!!

Promises, promises!

 

[trudij]

trying to think of something nice to say about that coloured.

struggling !!!

Its markings are pretty - but thats about it IMO - not for me. (which is lucky, cos that leaves the way for someone else to take it !! )

 

[Sheikh]

Thank you, have the Northern hemisphere buyers had enough of High Chap ?

Jeremy has been very short on winners, that must have been a nice individual.

 

[chroniclandlord]

Mount Nelson's off-spring sold very well.



THanks Miesque for your work.

 

[Miesque]

Jeremy has been very short on winners, that must have been a nice individual.

I believe he was bought by an "invested" individual.

Mount Nelson's off-spring sold very well.

They've been well supported by Newsells, and seem racy types.

 

[krizon]

Don't forget that a bit over-at-the-knee used to be considered a plus point, especially with NH/hunter types, supposedly indicating a strong front leg. But they were supposed to be coupled with short cannons, which the paint ain't. He's got a shoulder to match the straight pasterns and a poorly set-on neck, all of which should mean that he'll have a choppy stride and hold his head fairly high. Let down, he won't, 'cos he can't. Oh, well, he'll probably turn out to be another ATTRACTION after that slagging-off!

 

[imagine]

Sold for 11,000.

 

[trudij]

11k for that??!!!! blimey....

 

[Love Everlasting]

novelty value!

 

[imagine]

He is quite odd looking...still find it hard to think he's a TB. Hopefully the new owners can have a bit of fun with him.

 

[Miesque]

11k?? Seriously? I could have happily spent that on several others who might make it to the track.

As to over at the knee; I find it forgiveable when slight and the shoulders & pasterns are good in angulation.

 

[jinnyj]

Here is video of him walking which I think gives a far better indication - hes not a great walker and this highlights the above comments about being upright:
http://www.sirecam.eu/s_detail.php?pass=41|1666

 

[krizon]

Yup - doesn't track up and I can't see how he will when his build is all agin him. I feel a bit sorry for him, to be honest, as the cards are not stacked in his favour to be sound or to run effectively.

 

[trudij]

Shall I just cut the wait and start looking for a hacking home for it now??

 

[Cruella]

Shall I just cut the wait and start looking for a hacking home for it now??

An 11k coloured Thoroughbred? Even if he's useless on the track, some misguided self-styled 'sports horse breeder' who rates colour over conformation and soundness will stand him at stud somewhere for the sheer novelty value.

On another subject entirely: great weekend for Galileo, who notched up a transatlantic Group/Grade 1 "Queen Elizabeth" double, with Together finally notching a top-level success in the Queen Elizabeth II Challenge Cup at Keeneland last night.

 

[trudij]

I did think that Cruella - but (stupidly, I am well aware!!) Im hoping that nobody would want to breed from something like that.... as you rightly say though - some of the sports horse fraternity looking for novelty will do - they did from my friends 17/18th coloured TB years ago, and they will still in a few years. (mind you - Lads conformation was WAY better than this chap's) guess it will be the draw of being an overo rather than a tobiano that gets mares rather than anythihng sensible like shape....

I take it its the coloured bit that made you comment on my (not totally tongue in cheek) post rather than the price he made??