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I have listened to LBC solid for many years Marb. It is on all day, keeps me in touch with stuff. I hope this hour might be more positive but generally these hours are just so negative.
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Its not starting well...Johnsons sister has just described racing as Squid Game for horses..oh no.
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Thanks, Jinny.
I know racehorses are unbelievably well looked after, but they do only have a life, well, because we want a bet on them. No industry means no racehorses means no unnecessary deaths. However, I am not totally ignorant to the absolute joy an animal can bestow upon someone; but I’d also ask why would you risk having that joy ripped away from you if your beautiful horse met a fence all wrong?
I must admit that I’ve always had to juggle the dilemma, but more recently a magnificent cat, Arthur, has come into my life - literally. He’s not ours, but luckily No.66 are quite happy that he stays 20 hours a day with us, as long as we don’t feed him, so that he can back home to be fed. Arthur has made me reevaluate my relationship with animals, I suppose. I’ve even turned veggie! But not vegan, and I’m not trans.
I am currently struggling with a 17 year old beautiful girl cat who has hyperthyroidism. I would literally run through a wall for her. She is currently struggling with eating which I am trying to correct by giving her bad things like tinned fish, alongside normal cat food. Two days ago it got that bad re her not eating that I knew that vile day was coming. I discussed it it with my wife and we decided that Monday we would take her to be put down. On top of the not eating her body language is..I have had enough. I went to shop yesterday and bought her pilchards in a tin, she wolfed it down today along with her normal food. So at moment, I'm hanging on and hoping.
I hate horse's falling and having to be put down, but I also hate looking in fields as you drive past and some poor unkempt, not looked after properly animal, is stood in a sad way in the corner of the field.
You don't see these people trying to stop that, blatant cruelty
Yeah I have listened many times and phoned in you have probably heard me but you didn't know it.
Yes she wrongly stated about 60+ horses have died in the race the past few years.
5 horses have died in the race since 2012.
5 out of 395 since the changes to the fences were made in 2012. That's a very very small minority.
She advocates banning it because of its link to gambling but works for a media company that has no problem with placing gambling adverts on her own channel LBC.
If that's not hypocrisy I don't know what is.
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edgt
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It is very tedious to listen to people who have no clue what they are talking about.
Society is moving farther and farther away from animals and have no clue about them.
The first steeplechase began near me in 1752 ; I doubt it will make it to 300 years.
Society is moving farther and farther away from animals and have no clue about them.
The first steeplechase began near me in 1752 ; I doubt it will make it to 300 years.
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edgt
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Quote of the night
" I cannot tell you what they (horses ) are like !"
One for An Capall to shred in an article.
" I cannot tell you what they (horses ) are like !"
One for An Capall to shred in an article.
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Yeah I have listened many times and phoned in you have probably heard me but you didn't know it.
Yes she wrongly stated about 60+ horses have died in the race the past few years.
5 horses have died in the race since 2012.
5 out of 395 since the changes to the fences were made in 2012. That's a very very small minority.
She advocates banning it because of its link to gambling but works for a media company that has no problem with placing gambling adverts on her own channel LBC.
If that's not hypocrisy I don't know what is.
I will have heard you no doubt, next time you on, just say I'm known as Marb on Talking Horses:lol:
You mentioned something there I have sent messages to Clive Bull etc.mentioning gambling.
As you know they regularly have an hour on gambling. I always point out that Harry Redknapp gambling adverts are all over the station.
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Haha yeah you have got me wanting to phone up now.
Len Madeiros
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I feel for you, mate. If you love any animal, you love them all. I was so lucky today to be smothered by three Chinese rescue dogs - the owner had literally liberated them from the streets of Beijing in 2011!
Of course horses neglected in fields is a horror story all of its own; but our horses - we need to admit this - only live for our entertainment.
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Thanks Len, pets break your heart at some point. But there are a lot of animals used for entertainment. I will bring up Crufts. How many dogs have been bred for looks at the expense of breathing issues etc. That is cruel too. I will also bring up circuses where animals are trained to do stuff totally against their nature.
Then we have fox hunting that is still being done illegally under the guise of trail chasing.
All those instances do not give an animal any choice. Horse racing does, if a horse don't like what you want it to do, it won't do it. In all those other instances, the animal has no choice.
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Ring Johnson's sister and tell her what you think
We got one on now saying the fences are higher, not challenged, they been reduced ffs.
Len Madeiros
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I hate all the examples you’ve quoted, mate. Let’s just treat animals how they should be treated - as our friends and companions.
Sorry, I know sometimes I am on the wrong site. But I do actually really like a lot of you lovely people.
This comes back to the central philosophical that surrounds us humans aswell, e.g do we regulate the world for the protection of every tiny minority..that for all intents and purposes are the same as everyone else...like banning booze because of alcholics...ban gambling for people spunking 25 K away in five minutes...ban cake because people get fat...ban womens toilets because someone out there is transitioning...when will it end?
To live and let live sometimes means you have to accept to live and let die. Death is a part of life folks and risk is also a part of life.
I have had dogs all my life. When one dies I do what most people do. Grieve, get upset for a bit and then get over it given a bit of time.
Ps. I saw a video through no fault of my own which was kind of ramned down my throat of a group of comodo dragons eating an injured baby buffalo alive on facebook the other day.
Could someone ban those dirty comodo fuckers please.
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Len, you are entitled to your opinion, you don't have to think you are on a side. You believe what you believe. I would have to ask you though, surely you should be against NH racing and want it banned? Is that a fair question to you?
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Horses do have a choice Marb, if they hated racing, they would pull up and just not take part. All those other instances, they don't have that choice. I would like to hear more from people inside racing on this subject.
When this comes up on LBC they never seem to have racing people passing an opinion. It is just usually people who don't know a thing about horse racing at all. Also, they never mention the sad neglected animal in a field in all weathers, uncared for.
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And yet when they do an hour on such as LBC, virtually every caller is anti. I know they might be skewing that but I am going to be honest, I am disappointed by the fact that people inside the industry just don't put an argument up.
It might seem like its just a radio show, but it has million of listeners. Racing people need to start voicing their opinion on such as LBC Jinny.
If they don't, I am really worried that NH racing will be squashed
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Len Madeiros
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I think you’re right - time for me to stop betting on the jumps. I’ve actually talked myself into that position.
But no more Cheltenham. “Very sad face”
Just caught Nicky Campbell on BBC news channel doing his level best to sensationalise an already emotive issue, and the upshot was we could end up with running the race over plastic hurdles.
Kevin Blake put up a stout defence though, and dropped a double six when asking what the protesters what they'd do with 50,000 thorouhbreds.
Kevin Blake put up a stout defence though, and dropped a double six when asking what the protesters what they'd do with 50,000 thorouhbreds.
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Jockey Club CEO saying British racing needs to face the challenge of those who wish to see the sport cease "head-on"
It would be good to see the JC and BHA backing up these words with meaningful action but I won’t be holding my breath
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It would be good to see the JC and BHA backing up these words with meaningful action but I won’t be holding my breath
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Share your concern, Len, in company with the vast majority of owners and trainers whose first desire is that their horses come back safe and sound. Life is risky, though, and I think being born a racehorse gives you a considerably better chance of living it out than being born in the wild on the plains of Africa, even if jumping is your game.
It’s not all about betting, either. People flock to see Constitution Hill, not to bet on him (the bookies make sure of that), but to see a magnificent horse crush all that can be thrown at him and they flock to Cheltenham in their thousands because that’s where the best of the best congregate to race - they could have a bet from anywhere.
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jinnyj
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Nicky Campbell is a twat...always has been. Like Jeremy Vine, he’s there to stir things up. I am sure the BBCR2 show of his today will probably have that as a topic. I always switch off his show as it just irritates me...I’m actually hoping he’s run over on his bike one day instead of contestant griping about the roads...you ride a bike through the middle of our biggest city....of course it’s busy!
I think there will be sufficient proactive response by the BHA and JC by the sounds of it. Just because we don’t hear about the ins and outs, doesn’t mean they don’t listen or react. In fact they actively responded when I flagged up the age concern with older horses running in points and now ALL horses 15 and up have to have a certified vets certificate saying they are healthy at the start of the season. I’d like to see it changed to 13 personally but it’s a start.
I think there will be sufficient proactive response by the BHA and JC by the sounds of it. Just because we don’t hear about the ins and outs, doesn’t mean they don’t listen or react. In fact they actively responded when I flagged up the age concern with older horses running in points and now ALL horses 15 and up have to have a certified vets certificate saying they are healthy at the start of the season. I’d like to see it changed to 13 personally but it’s a start.
jinnyj
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Lucinda Russell has invited Leader of AR to visit her yard. Doubt any will go but they would quickly see the considerable difference between “racing is cruel” and their “keep all animals in a field” fantasy and how to genuinely look after horses in a kind and loving manner.
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