King George VI Chase

Desert Orchid said:
I've changed my mind and decided to along with Santini (ew) at 6/1. Three places are on offer so each-way seems prudent.

On ORs, only Cyrname is rated higher and I have doubts about his stamina.

Clan Des Obeaux probably should be rated higher and remains my idea of the most likely winner but horses are only human...

If I can get 33/1 or better Frodon on Saturday morning, I might have a small ew interest in him too. I was prepared to back him for the Gold Cup and if he's running here I have to wonder why they would duck out of a decent Cheltenham hcap a few days later. I'm a big fan of the horse and if he can get into a rhythm over the fences, who knows.

I would hate to think they were only running such a good horse in the race to make the pace for the stablemates.
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I've had pretty much a complete rethink on the race.

I just wonder if, with Cyrname, I'm not seeing the wood for the trees. That form with Altior just stands out a mile and both Hendo and Nicholls are constantly banging on about what it took put of them.

I wasn't convinced at the time about Cyrname's Wetherby win proving he stayed but I reckon the 11/4 on offer this morning amounts to that price about him staying well enough to win.

Contrary to the shite that Chapman appears to be stirring, I don't believe Nicholls has insisted that Cobden ride Cyrname. I reckon Cobden decided before Wetherby that Cyrname was the better and it might not have been a hard decision.

I'm happy enough with the Santini each-way bet as it could still provide a wee bit of value but it will probably be no surprise if he just puts up a nice, promising performance with the Gold Cup in mind but there does seem to be money for him.

I haven't seen 33/1 Frodon anywhere and he's blue across the board too but I can't see me backing him now.
 
The jockeys in behind want sacking

Let Frodon lead and he'll merry dance the ***k out of em every time:)

ffs:lol:
 
Truncheon said:
The jockeys in behind want sacking

Let Frodon lead and he'll merry dance the ***k out of em every time:)

ffs:lol:
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None worse than Sam TD. Wtf was he doing letting himself get stuck behind Black Op


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Desert Orchid said:
If I can get 33/1 or better Frodon on Saturday morning, I might have a small ew interest in him too. I was prepared to back him for the Gold Cup and if he's running here I have to wonder why they would duck out of a decent Cheltenham hcap a few days later. I'm a big fan of the horse and if he can get into a rhythm over the fences, who knows.

I would hate to think they were only running such a good horse in the race to make the pace for the stablemates.
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Should have committed the other day but I was urging Bryony on from four out. Brilliant tactical ride and great for racing.
 
Just utterly, utterly brilliant. Such a shame no crowd, can you imagine the roar?

As a plus, one of my great nephews in total awe at his aged great aunt who told him yesterday to back him!
 
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She’s now the winning most female jump jockey ever........and she does it in the King George!
 
Desert Orchid said:
Should have committed the other day but I was urging Bryony on from four out. Brilliant tactical ride and great for racing.
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And me! My wife called from the other room “who won”. “Bryony Frost” I shouted back - poor old FRODON didn’t rate a mention.
 
I don't post much on here these days as haven't really been following racing much during the past year - but WHAT a ride Bryony Frost has produced there on Frodon. Absolutely fantastic, sporting moment of the year for me.
 
barjon said:
Interesting that the race was run nearly 2.5 seconds slower than the earlier novice.
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All talking about the pace Bryony set. Werent even that strong, everyone just got the ride wrong on average horses.

Says as much when Saint Calvados who pulled the whole way was swinging in with a chance. Was that poor in fact, I think Monalee would have won it had been allowed to travel over.
 
The amount of bsd rides today broke all sorts of records. It really is tough these days to back a horse that gets a C grade ride.
 
Slim said:
The amount of bsd rides today broke all sorts of records. It really is tough these days to back a horse that gets a C grade ride.
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Be last time we see Sam Twiston on a Nicholls horse. Delivered CDO against Bristol far too early, should have kept hold of him. Then slots in today behind Black Op, absolutely brainless.

Hughes delivering the overrated Waiting Patiently when the race was lost.

Thought Nico was riding Saint Calvados the way Sheehan couldn’t settle him.

Tbh, more average horses and poor rides. The strength of Ireland compared is ten fold.
 
Double J said:
You don’t watch much sport evidentially.
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I’m with FU on this. It was a brilliant ride on a horse that probably wasn’t good enough on paper. But Bryony rode a peach of a race and capitalised on his assets. In doing so she became the first female jockey to win the King George and also broke the record for the winning most rides by a female jump jockey. She has a rapport with some horses that other jockeys will never have. She gets them to run because they want to. She inspires them to believe that they are good enough. And she’s only 25!
 
Not a lot pleases you guys, does it? :)

Oops: sorry JinnyJ - you hadn’t posted the above when I did.
 
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jinnyj said:
I’m with FU on this. It was a brilliant ride on a horse that probably wasn’t good enough on paper. But Bryony rode a peach of a race and capitalised on his assets. In doing so she became the first female jockey to win the King George and also broke the record for the winning most rides by a female jump jockey. She has a rapport with some horses that other jockeys will never have. She gets them to run because they want to. She inspires them to believe that they are good enough. And she’s only 25!
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Yes, my point of drawing attention earlier to the 12 lengths or so slower time than the novice chase was really about about that showing how well Bryony controlled the race and ran it tactically to thwart those who would challenge her. She did have FRODON on her side, of course, but I think it was a classy bit of riding that allowed him to triumph. I’ll be interested to see the splits in due course (and I wouldn’t be surprised if Simon Rowland has a say about them).
 
I don’t think you’ll learn anything from the splits, times or reviewing the race.

Poor rides and poor horses, Frodon the exception. Just feels very average/poor. Much like the Ryanair he won.
 
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