King George VI Chase

Slim said:
It's just his running style. On and off the bridle. I'm not ruling him out at all.
Click to expand...

Nor me

Current ground conditions are GS/G in places with no rain forecast from weds night

LIT and Santini will be better on G/S ground than most of the others
 
Truncheon said:
Nor me

Current ground conditions are GS/G in places with no rain forecast from weds night

LIT and Santini will be better on G/S ground than most of the others
Click to expand...

Santini will be run off his feet, regardless of the ground.

It’s basically a racecourse school, with connections practically confirming it. He will get behind, and absolutely not knocked about to win. His target is the Gold Cup, this is an afterthought, and he’ll have P next in his formline. Certain of it.
 
Ben, I was ‘certain’ I wasn’t too pissed when I went to my billet last night, but my hangover this morning tells me I was perhaps misguided in that assessment!

The market says Santini is about an 11/8 chance to place. His odds of pulling-up will likely be a good bit longer than that, and definitely longer than Even money.

If you want Christmas freebies, I suggest you write a letter to Santa. :lol:
 
anyone else tempted with Monalee e/w? his gold cup and savills runs are about as good as anything in the race form wise. not too worried with his thurles run, improved a lot from down royal to the aforementioned savills chase run last xmas.
 
Not really. I feel he was a bit flattered in both the Savills and the GC because both races were run at a relative crawl. I think the two Pumpkin's will take him way outside his comfort zone.
 
Boring but one of the front two. Clan might drift to the sort of price you can back and lay some off at under 2 as he travels so well.









 
He was hard trained for the Altior race. I think he'll likely stay ok but like Slim says ground will be key in that regard.
 
Interesting that they had Clan more forward for his prep this time than previously. That and the hard race he had would give me a slight doubt.
I get the Cyrname argument regards the Altior race.
Still has it to prove though for me. Did Wetherby really tell us anything. Will be no hiding place at Kempton.
 
JamesRB said:
anyone else tempted with Monalee e/w? his gold cup and savills runs are about as good as anything in the race form wise. not too worried with his thurles run, improved a lot from down royal to the aforementioned savills chase run last xmas.
Click to expand...

Blackmore was meant to be going over to ride him. If she was, I'd take it as a clue that they fancy him

I think short of 3 miles 2 is his best trip. I am interested rather than keen
 
Frankel said:
Interesting that they had Clan more forward for his prep this time than previously. That and the hard race he had would give me a slight doubt.
Click to expand...
Wouldn't be betting against Clan on the strength of his 'hard' race at Haydock. Sure enough, his stamina gave out over the extended distance and hvy ground, but travelled well up to the 2nd last, and wasn't unduly knocked about, once he couldn't win. Kempton ground guaranteed to be faster, too.
Conversely, Cyrname had Altior beaten without undue pressure, but didn't last home over the same track & trip, this February.
 
Last edited:
It’s often said that any horse can stay a trip but it’s how fast they can run towards the end of it and while many will need to agree to disagree on just how much Cyrname had left at the end of the Charlie Hall, beating Vinndication and Aye Right giving them 2 & 6 lb respectively is very different to a likely soft ground King George.

Vinndication departed too early to be conclusive at Newbury but Aye Right confirmed himself a 150 horse via numerous lines and the handicapper agreed, upping him to 151.

The manner of Cyrname’s victory was impressive for 99% of the race (at least in my eyes) but the beaten horses lead me to believe it’s not good enough to beat Clan Des Obeaux over this C&D, especially on genuine soft ground if his stablemate is over his Haydock run, which I expect him to be.

Nicholls talks shite a lot of the time and regardless of his pre Haydock comments it’s evident that CDO (incidentally, the correct way to abbreviate OCD - in alphabetical order, as it f***ing should be) comes on plenty from his first run.

More than most races all season, this goes to repeat winners and we’re set for another 3 time winner on Saturday.
 
Last year Cyrname who went of at 5/4 ran so badly something had to be amiss and it mayhave had very little to do with the trip

We got a repeat dose over a suitable trip 2m5f in his next race emphasizing all was not well

On his return despite only giving a few pounds to his main rivals he goes of a 3/1.
Someone obviously thought he didn't stay or was unfit

Perhaps he wasn't 100% wound up but as far as the trip goes he seen it out without batting an eyelid.

I can't see past him and fully expect him to reverse placings with the inconstant CDO

Cyrname

FC Cyrname/Lost in Transation
 
Tanlic said:
Last year Cyrname who went of at 5/4 ran so badly something had to be amiss and it mayhave had very little to do with the trip

We got a repeat dose over a suitable trip 2m5f in his next race emphasizing all was not well

On his return despite only giving a few pounds to his main rivals he goes of a 3/1.
Someone obviously thought he didn't stay or was unfit

Perhaps he wasn't 100% wound up but as far as the trip goes he seen it out without batting an eyelid.

I can't see past him and fully expect him to reverse placings with the inconstant CDO

Cyrname

FC Cyrname/Lost in Transation
Click to expand...
The 'repeat dose' was in a 3 horse race where 1 of them didn't stay. Wetherby's not nearly the test it was, and the KG'll be a stiffer test, just on sheer class.

Re the ground - Kempton drains well, amd the forecast ain't bad, either.
 
Back
Top