King George Vl chase

Robicheaux said:
Wonder whether he rocks up in the Grand Annual.
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I don't think Nicholls bothers too much with the Grand Annual. Too many bandits.

Better targeting a valuable handicap at somewhere like Wincanton or Ayr or maybe Ascot/Sandown in which others are prepping for Cheltenham and Aintree.
 
yorick said:
Yes, I have.

I imagined that, in this 4 runner field, with a horse that is jumping very nicely with just a third of the race gone, that he jockey might do a little more than drop his hands with two thirds of the race remaining.

What I didn't imagine was that they would be preparing him so early for handicap chasing.

Anything else, you totally wasted your money so U blame the jockey saying he was a non trier....pub talk
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Desert Orchid said:
I don't think Nicholls bothers too much with the Grand Annual. Too many bandits.

Better targeting a valuable handicap at somewhere like Wincanton or Ayr or maybe Ascot/Sandown in which others are prepping for Cheltenham and Aintree.
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That's a possible route but he's got to get over a very bad run and that takes time. Talk of Cheltenham is a huge no no. I'd aim him at a track like wincanton as you suggest...giving weight to rags is more his forte imo
 
Just saying that was 2 days of really enjoyable racing even if it wasn't profitable for yours truly. Sir Gino looks like another superstar doesn't he incredible in the fighting 5th and even better here. Really like the look of him. People talking about that Rubaud being a non jigger have had too much Christmas plonk I think. He was just completely out of his depth. Can't really comment on Chepstow as couldn't see most of it was just gutted the Jubilee Express couldn't get up but a great result for a small yard and connections to have landed that.
 
Rubaud needs decent ground so the 2m handicap on Scottish National day would seem to me a suitable target. He’s won at Ayr in the past
 
What’s the difference between losing and ‘totally losing’?
Listen , my friend, I put pennies on a horse I thought might have an outside chance. I’m not weeping over it but one of the reasons I watch races is to assess future chances.
If you think me pointing out this absolute non trying is ‘pub talk’, you need your eyes tested and a check-up from the neck up. Now, off you pop.
 
Danny said:
Just saying that was 2 days of really enjoyable racing even if it wasn't profitable for yours truly. Sir Gino looks like another superstar doesn't he incredible in the fighting 5th and even better here. Really like the look of him. People talking about that Rubaud being a non jigger have had too much Christmas plonk I think. He was just completely out of his depth. Can't really comment on Chepstow as couldn't see most of it was just gutted the Jubilee Express couldn't get up but a great result for a small yard and connections to have landed that.
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Yes, it’s me saying he was a non-trier. That doesn’t mean that they stopped him winning so less talk of Christmas plonk. Please.
For the future I will regard his run here, certainly before falling, was disguised with a mind to his future handicap mark.
 
viking said:
Rubaud needs decent ground so the 2m handicap on Scottish National day would seem to me a suitable target. He’s won at Ayr in the past
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One of Nicholls I can't understand is Sans bruit looked for all the world like he wanted stepping up to 3 mile last time he ran and then he's dropped him back to 2 mile here and byrony has blew his brains out trying to lay it down to a horse going miles too quick by the time she realised and took a grip I think he'd popped a lung.
 
It's nearly 8pm the day before the Savills Chase and not even one post about it.

I guess we're busy.

Inothewayyourthinkin, there must be an each way angle In there somewhere!!
 
Marb said:
It's nearly 8pm the day before the Savills Chase and not even one post about it.

I guess we're busy.

Inothewayyourthinkin, there must be an each way angle In there somewhere!!
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For me it's a 2 horse race and I think Fact to file is going to be the best 3 miler we've seen since Kauto. Gallopins a great horse but I think tomorrow sees the arrival of the new champ.
 
We'll see tomorrow Maurice and I don't think Lossiemouth is over rated either I don't think we saw the best of her by a long way yesterday. Not that I think we saw the best of Constitution Hill. But Lossiemouth will turn out to be a lot better than what she showed yesterday of that I'm sure.
 
Danny said:
We'll see tomorrow Maurice and I don't think Lossiemouth is over rated either I don't think we saw the best of her by a long way yesterday. Not that I think we saw the best of Constitution Hill. But Lossiemouth will turn out to be a lot better than what she showed yesterday of that I'm sure.
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In my opinion, it turned into a sprint and the fastest horse won. Same as Lossie's race. There's also the good chance that GDC and FOS were only half-fit.

Today will be different.

I'll be stunned if GDC doesn't win easily.
 
If it turned into a sprint Gdc had the advantage because he set the pace. Agree he's never at his best first time up. I know he's miles ahead on figures Maurice and on what he's done thus far and 99% of the time I'd go for proven over potential...this is one of the 1% occasions. Hope it's a good fair race and they both give their running at least we'll know where we're at then.
 
I hear you, Danny, but GDC is a very high class Gold Cup winner, a proper stayer.

He got beat in the Durkan (2.5m) last season first time up not only by Fastorslow but also by the 152-rated Appreciate It. It was a public gallop for him. He didn't run again over that kind of trip again after that until this season's Durkan - beat again.

He came from that defeat last year to win this race by over 20 lengths. I'm not saying he'll do likewise today but I certainly won't be surprised if he does.
 
Didn’t an old trainer say something like “if you take 20 horses who get 3 miles only 5 of them will get another 2 furlongs”. GDC would be one of them and that’s what should bring him home today.
 
I thought GDC showed signs of a horse who has had enough of racing rather than a horse needing a run
I have serious doubts about him reversing places with the ultra consistent Fact to File
 
granger said:
Galopin put in the best Irish chase performance here last year

Tomorrow could be harder than March
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Should be a cracker. Galopin will be tough to crack. Even if Galopin was to get turned over narrowly, it doesn't mean he can't win the Gold Cup. FTF will have to prove himself up in trip again. That said, no guarantee Galopin will have the constitution to win another Gold Cup. Would be a brave call though to think that if FTF gets beaten today that he could reverse it at Cheltenham.
 
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