EC1
On a break
yes agree CR was probably a better horse ..but a full second is a lot..so must have been pace
its so hard to do visual sectionals from Newmarket..pity
its so hard to do visual sectionals from Newmarket..pity
The 2000 Guineas (and beyond)
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Sheikh
At the Start
Canford in his last two races has looked to me as if when he goes looking for that devastaing turn of foot he has it's not there. I would be confident that over 6f it would be there. Hope they don't ruin him.
And yet if Canford was ridden more aggressively (like he did get the mile) he may well have won. The dip seemed to catch him out (as Ardross mentions), but surely the St James's Palace rather than the Jersey will be his target now.
Whereas DT must surely go for the Irish Guineas.
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I personally think if he was ridden more handy he would have finished weaker - the slowly run mile was his best chance.
He was one of the very few that was finishing though. While he will be effective at 7 furlongs, the Ascot mile is surely right up his street.
BackHander
At the Start
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Considering Canford refused to settle and was fighting Hughes for the first two furlongs suggests to me that if you could switch him off he would easily get the trip.
Irish Stamp
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I'm pretty sure he stays but he's not nearly as good as they thought he was after Royal Ascot last year - at least he won't be at a mile.
Would back the winner to confirm form with any of those in behind - Lemaire hardly touched him to quicken clear of the beaten horses.
Would back the winner to confirm form with any of those in behind - Lemaire hardly touched him to quicken clear of the beaten horses.
Irish Stamp
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Hopefully they don't go the way of Winker Watson with him and take 2 years to realise the horse just isn't that good anymore.
I'm astonished you say that. He seems likely to prove every bit as good as he was last season if not better, if indeed he hasn't already proved that.
I wouldn't mind half a dozen this good!
Irish Stamp
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I can't see him winning a good race over a mile the way he won the Coventry Steve.
The way people were talking about him after the Coventry you'd be expecting him to be winning these Group 1 mile races by 3 or 4 lengths.
The way people were talking about him after the Coventry you'd be expecting him to be winning these Group 1 mile races by 3 or 4 lengths.
chroniclandlord
Senior Jockey
I don't see any of those behind Makfi reversing the result over a mile, nor am I yet convinced that CC gets a true run mile.
EC1
On a break
CC showed more speed than stamina to finish where he did..would agree he will struggle in a true run 8f race
Bar the Bull
At the Start
I have never been a Canford Cliffs fan, but I am being won round.
He looks like a miler, walks like a miler and tastes like a miler.
He looks like a miler, walks like a miler and tastes like a miler.
EC1
On a break
didn't look like one at Newbury though
Euronymous
Senior Jockey
Anyone else see Malcolm Heyhoe's analysis of the race on RPTV? His Weekender columns are usually good but he has totally got the wrong end of the stick here. Absolute drivel.
Anyone know when the next declaration stage is for the Irish Guineas?
I'm planning on having a lumpy bet on Steinbeck for this. I fancy we didn't see the best miler of the generation on saturday, although Mafki won't line up in Ireland so it won't matter too much.
I'm planning on having a lumpy bet on Steinbeck for this. I fancy we didn't see the best miler of the generation on saturday, although Mafki won't line up in Ireland so it won't matter too much.
Narcotic Nora
Apprentice
Monday 17th May.
What are we looking at? Dick Turpin, Xtension, Fencing Master very likely from the English Guineas.
Steinbeck (you can have 5-2 with PP now), Keredari and Free Judgement have also been mentioned as on target for it.
Other possibles: Noll Wollop, Beethoven, Jan Vermeer, Dynasty, Elusive Pimpernel ????????
It should be a decent race.
It should and I won't be taking 5-2 (Jokers) but I really fancy him... Reading between the lines from all the comments emanating from Ballydoyle I think this fella is their best 3yo. He ran a cracker in the dewhurst and was unlucky given the other three came down the middle and he was probably lacking fitness as well. It was the speed and acceleration he showed that I liked. He quickened again off what was a fast pace anyway and that takes some doing in a Group 1. He didn't see it out but I think he'll get the mile well this year. Only concern would be the possibility of soft ground as his dad was a good ground horse and Steinbeck looks similar.
Yep... Not exactly insightful and he managed to put up? Well not a lot really..
chroniclandlord
Senior Jockey
I'm a big fan of Steinbeck too.
