2 Mile Chasers 20/21

It has and I was tempted to take the 14/1 yesterday with Sky but instead elected for the same bet but at 33/1 with the added leg of Envoi Allen to win the Marsh.

That bet is still available at 33/1
 
Maruco said:
The ground my be an issue for Rouge Vif. There's plenty of rain forecast, and Whittington is on record as saying he doesn't want soft ground.
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Maxbet said:
Pulled him out of the Shloer for precisely that!
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Maxbet said:
https://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/ground-key-to-vif-run/187019
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Looking at the forecast, there's potentially 30mm of rain at Sandown before Saturday afternoon.
That's a lot. Potential to even turn it beyond soft to heavy.
 
Next to no chance of Rouge Vif running, if forecast is right.

Politologue looks practically an each-way bet to nothing, but have instead gone for Win Only at Powers boosted 4/1.

I can see Altior either not being happy on the ground, not being knocked about on the ground, or being pulled altogether.
 
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Grasshopper said:
Next to no chance of Rouge Vif running, if forecast is right.

Politologue looks practically an each-way bet to nothing.
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Was stuffed in this last year on soft ground.
Think he's best in the Spring myself

First Flow will love the ground - but not sure he's good enough
 
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Has plenty form on Soft, Shane.......maybe just turned out a bit too quickly after the Schloer last season?

Love FF, but he has a lot to find on ratings.
 
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Because I love to punish myself and follow horses off a cliff regularly, I took 66/1 E/W 3 places on Esprit Du Large for the Tingle Creek a couple weeks ago. With a view that a number of the main players wouldn't show up and based on his King Henry run at same track last year, that he could sneak a place.

Obviously his last few runs need serious forgiving and forgetting, but his win LY on soft ground was in the exact same time as the Tingle Creek itself. And at the time that was considered a good race between Defi and UDS. It was before Defi has bombed out few times since and after Tingle creek and all the way up to the festival, Defi was a leading player for the QMCC.

Even with 8 runners declared, bookies are only offering 2 places at present - so they are obviously sure there will be some more withdrawals before Saturday. If only 6 were to line up, I'm still hopeful that Esprit Du Large COULD finish in the first 3.
 
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Six 48hr declarations for the Tingle Creek

Altior (IRE) Brewin'upastorm (IRE) Castlegrace Paddy (IRE) Greaneteen (FR) Politologue (FR) Rouge Vif (FR)
 
Diamond Geezer said:
Six 48hr declarations for the Tingle Creek

Altior (IRE) Brewin'upastorm (IRE) Castlegrace Paddy (IRE) Greaneteen (FR) Politologue (FR) Rouge Vif (FR)
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Well there goes my speculative E/W 3 places bet on Esprit Du Large so!
Was right that it would cut up to 6 runners or less, just didn't think he would be a NR.
First Flow also a NR. Interesting that the 2 that have been pulled would have had no issue with the likely soft/heavy ground.
Trainers must have taken a view they were just in too deep of waters...... Or just too soon for First Flow since his last race.

Esprit Du Large was also entered in the Peterborough on Sunday, so presume he'll take up that appointment now.
 
So the optimal here is it shits down Fri/Sat, Rouge Vif and Altior are pulled and Castlegrace Paddy does the Pumpkin pair.

Re First Flow. He won at Ascot despite losing ground/energy at a lot of the fences and is still well handicapped. No point ruining his mark for a race he can't win really.
 
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Where’s the idea from Altior would be pulled cause of the ground?

Did he not beat Un De Sceaux in an absolute bog a couple of year ago.
 
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Hes just said even soft/heavy isn’t that soft round Sandown and to quote ‘Altior loves it there’

I’ll be sick if they pull him.
 
Double J said:
Hes just said even soft/heavy isn’t that soft round Sandown and to quote ‘Altior loves it there’

I’ll be sick if they pull him.
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The trainer said: “We’ve definitely got him a lot, lot sharper this time than he was last year.
“He’s had a racecourse gallop and he’d be miles straighter than he was at Ascot last season. There’s no doubt about that.
“We don’t want it really soft but we’ve won on soft ground and we’ve beaten Politologue on soft ground before.
“Everyone knows I nearly didn’t run him at Ascot, but it’s different now. He wasn’t ready for two miles and five furlongs on heavy against Cyrname.”

Conclusion....The horse is knocking on, I'm knocking on.....It's now or never, give it to me, delicious lolly from ALTIORRRRRRRRRR...higher, higher!!!!
 
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Maxbet said:
The trainer said: “We’ve definitely got him a lot, lot sharper this time than he was last year.
“He’s had a racecourse gallop and he’d be miles straighter than he was at Ascot last season. There’s no doubt about that.
“We don’t want it really soft but we’ve won on soft ground and we’ve beaten Politologue on soft ground before.
“Everyone knows I nearly didn’t run him at Ascot, but it’s different now. He wasn’t ready for two miles and five furlongs on heavy against Cyrname.”
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That’s not filled me with much confidence. I’ll keep an eye on the exchange market.

Any sort of major drift I’m getting rid of the bet. Wouldn’t be first time something like that’s happened from the Hendo yard.
 
Double J said:
That’s not filled me with much confidence. I’ll keep an eye on the exchange market.

Any sort of major drift I’m getting rid of the bet. Wouldn’t be the first time something like that’s happened from the Hendo yard.
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I agree, but I think Hendo will be quick to inform if there's any shady movement. Besides that; name one horse that would be advantaged over him by desperate ground.

Epantante drifted from 4/9 to 11/10 in places on Friday evening.

It will make you think, you don't know what to think!:D
 
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Double J said:
That’s not filled me with much confidence. I’ll keep an eye on the exchange market.

Any sort of major drift I’m getting rid of the bet. Wouldn’t be first time something like that’s happened from the Hendo yard.
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worth keeping in mind it's no longer under antepost rules so any lay would be rule 4'd if he's pulled from here. also means any drift won't be related to him running or not.

if you suspect he's going to be pulled there isn't much you can do about it now other than cash out your antepost bet (if possible)

i think you're being a bit pessimistic anyway. hendo scares me with over protection of his good horses but i'd say those quotes are quite positive for him.
 
JamesRB said:
I think you're being a bit pessimistic anyway. Hendo scares me with over protection of his good horses but I'd say those quotes are quite positive for him.
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The only pork pie he says in there is; “Everyone knows I nearly didn’t run him at Ascot"

It just goes to show, if you say something enough times, you start to believe it yourself!

His post-race narcism trying to defend his ball's up!

https://www.racingpost.com/news/lat...too-testing-despite-unsettled-forecast/461786 <<<<<< Clerk of the course telling Hendo everything he needs to be hearing!!
 
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Maxbet said:
I agree, but I think Hendo will be quick to inform if there's any shady movement. Besides that; name one horse that would be advantaged over him by desperate ground.

Epantante drifted from 4/9 to 11/10 in places on Friday evening.

It will make you think, you don't know what to think!:D
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So JP could smash it.
 
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