Ante-Post Punting Plans/Propositions Thread.

November Hcap.
Adjuvant. Hasn't run since May. At first I thought they have him ticking over for a hurdling campaign, but he was I thought a bit disappointing on his 2 efforts.
Comes here a fresh horse + this may be the plan. Ran really well last season in 2 big handicaps at Newmarket + Goodwood on soft ground, off 90 + 95. Chance here off 92. 25/1.
 
Desert Orchid said:
Il Ridoto into 10/1 tops this evening.

Did someone of influence put it up in the last 24 hours?
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Might be something to do with PN's post race (and pre-race) comments for the Chepstow race 3 weeks or so ago...

Pre-race, along the lines of "won't be ready, PP the target"

Post-race: "You can do all you like with them at home but nothing compares to a run. I was thrilled with Il Riditto on Saturday and hopefully he will run well in the Paddy Power Gold Cup (16 November). He loves Cheltenham."
 
Frero Ballbags could be the bet in the Sefton on Saturday.

From memory he's quite a small chaser but he goes round Aintree well.
 
Robicheaux said:
November Hcap.
Adjuvant. Hasn't run since May. At first I thought they have him ticking over for a hurdling campaign, but he was I thought a bit disappointing on his 2 efforts.
Comes here a fresh horse + this may be the plan. Ran really well last season in 2 big handicaps at Newmarket + Goodwood on soft ground, off 90 + 95. Chance here off 92. 25/1.
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May well follow you here.

I've no doubt Master Builder will prove to be a very good horse in future, but I've just got a feeling this might be one race too many for him this season.

Stressfree was obviously value for more after not getting a great run from the back under Jamie Spencer last time.

Adjuvant could be really well handicapped. And this is the type of price and event he would need backing for. He's well handicapped on his best form, the 1M4F could be right up his street aswell.

He does have a tendency to be too keen. He should stay this distance all day long, so you'd hope they will try and utilise this by going on from the front. The last thing we'd want is him out the back early and too keen.

As I say, EW I think this is a really decent shout.
 
Marb said:
Frero Ballbags could be the bet in the Sefton on Saturday.

From memory he's quite a small chaser but he goes round Aintree well.
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I'm backing him, I'm on Djelo already tomorrow and I've put Martator in my tracker from the Byrne. I'm determined Venetia and I will get on better this year.

Finished with the flat though, no interest at Donny. Good season nice ROI but I struggled from the Ebor meeting on. Will change it up next year, gonna get into the 2yos which ramp up in the second half of the season, where I don't do as well historically.
 
Decent looking (at this stage) novice at Chelters on Friday. Hendo has Hyland and Shanagh Bob both entered with Nico booked and I'm taking the chance given the current lack of rain that the former is more likely to take his chance given he won at the track on likely similar ground at the last meeting, where he was most impressive...9/2 is fair. It's gonna cut up obviously and the Jonjo fav's form was let down yesterday at Wincanton.
 
I'm probably barking up the wrong tree again, but Gemirande could be an interesting longshot if he ran on Saturday.

He started off in handicao chases slowly slowly, getting beat at short odds, then his form picked up, when winning a couple of decent handicap chases. His overall profile is generally progressive year on year, although I've no idea what happend last season, as he didn't even start off until early March 2024, running a galllant fifth in the Grand Annual, and only had three runs in total last season, starting off in March.

He's lots to find on official ratings of course and must need several horses to drop out to get a run.

The hope would be he's summered well and has some extra improvement to show. I do think he's nicely handicapped off 128, but I suppose this would be a tough starting point for him this season against higher rated opponents.

Were he to run, that would be a swifter start to his season than in 2023/2024.when he only start in March. He's generally 33/1 but there is 50s in a place or two.

I think I'll wait nearer the time for the best each way terms.
 
Due mainly to health reasons I have decided to stop betting. To do so I hatched a plan to go out with a bang. With the help of some very wealthy friends in Australia who are big punters and my brother in the uk we have between us managed to get $Aus XXX,XXX at 11/8 XX,XXX pounds between Thailand and the UK for me at an average 15/8....The years have been good to me with some classic touches and some lucky AP bets like Zenyatta and Zarkava both 6/1 Don't push it 60/1-10/1 Binocular 9/1 a winning run posted oh here of 21 from 25 **"""5star bets. I built a 7 million baht home 3 horses and a few nice cars during my punting days and helped my late friend live his dream of training his first winner...Health is letting me down and my patience doesn't allow me to spend the time studying races and sometimes I just want a 3 mile chase to be over because it bores me..if it's not a potential superstar I no longer have the patience....over and out...as far as my betting days go. Let's hope it's with a bang and I live to see it🌝
 
Marb said:
I'm probably barking up the wrong tree again, but Gemirande could be an interesting longshot if he ran on Saturday.

He started off in handicao chases slowly slowly, getting beat at short odds, then his form picked up, when winning a couple of decent handicap chases. His overall profile is generally progressive year on year, although I've no idea what happend last season, as he didn't even start off until early March 2024, running a galllant fifth in the Grand Annual, and only had three runs in total last season, starting off in March.

He's lots to find on official ratings of course and must need several horses to drop out to get a run.

The hope would be he's summered well and has some extra improvement to show. I do think he's nicely handicapped off 128, but I suppose this would be a tough starting point for him this season against higher rated opponents.

Were he to run, that would be a swifter start to his season than in 2023/2024.when he only start in March. He's generally 33/1 but there is 50s in a place or two.

I think I'll wait nearer the time for the best each way terms.
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Anyone know what number Gemirande is after today's 6 day confirmations?

Also, what is the maximum field size?

Any help appreciated.
 
Marb said:
Anyone know what number Gemirande is after today's 6 day confirmations?

Also, what is the maximum field size?

Any help appreciated.
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Ah. There's 17 left by the looks of it and he must be no. 17 in the list, so surely guaranteed a run if trainer wants to have a go at it.
 
I was looking at Protekorat in the PP the weekend and thought its a tough ask of top weight and surprised he's not starting off in a graded race somewhere. So I thought whats he trying to frame the Handicap for ? Skleton hasn't another runner in the race then as I went through the runners Madara that is down atm as being trained by Keiran Burke is actually having his first run for Dan Skelton and gets in off 10-1 if the unpronounceable one takes his chance. Madara is only 5 so open to improvement and he does have some decent form to speak of. He beat Excelsious who's 10/1 bp for this over 2 mile at the course and beat a useful type in Path d'roux to land the 59k Ryan air hc chase at Lep. He went off 11/2 for for the Johnny Henderson didn't disgrace himself he made a bad mistake 3 out and got tired in the heavy ground. He's then changed trainer from sophie leech to Keiran Burke who gave him run around at Ascot the weekend before last and now switches to Skeltons yard. Admittedly its worrying firstly that Skelton won't of had hardly anytime to work with him and I wouldn't be sure he'll run and his comeback run was less than impressive always held up and never got into it but either way those 2 pieces of form from last year are strong and at least there is one win at the course. Its also a worry that having only had 11 days he might not be ready but Skeltons left him in at this stage.

On a bit of a wing and a prayer I've had a decent rattle at 33/1 in hopes he turns up. I'll be down at Cheltenham on Saturday if anyone fancies saying hello and maybe having a quick pint then you're more than welcome,those who might still have my phone number from a group i was in once feel free to drop me a message if not dm or pm whatever they are called me on here and we'll sort something.
 
I can't see anything in Saturdays Mackeson, so I've switched attention to the Greatwood on Sunday. Black Poppy + Cracking Rhapsody at 40s + 33s are two that appeal to me ew.
 
By all accounts he is likely to run. It could end up a decent field with him having been off for some time. If he does turn out and wins easily odds on for March will be gone in a flash. However laying him off is out of the question for me as getting matched for large sums becomes very difficult prior to race day. So it's in for a penny in for a pound....enjoy your day
 
you could do worse than grab the 4/5 Constitution Hill available with Ber365 for the Fighting Fifth. If the indication remains he will run 7 days out he'll be 4/9 and you can pick up a nice profit laying him off
 
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