Betfair Hurdle

No luck with that in the sense that I can see some of the races on my screen but a few are "no runners" where the card should be and I can't copy & paste the way I normally can.

My problem is that I leave for Spain at 4am tomorrow and wanted to print the 5-day card off then cross out non-runners later in the week before doing the form as I'm not sure if I'll be able to access a printer over there.

The cards should have been finalised about 11am today so I fail to understand why it isn't up and running properly anywhere.
 
In the pub yesterday with a bunch of lads one of whom has connections in Alan Kings yard........They get some good stuff now and then and they kept telling me to back a horse called Billy The Kid the next time it runs......So I am straight on to the mobile and can only find one that fits the bill and it's Australian....They say no no no it runs on Saturday in the Betfair Hurdle :blink: Like an idiot I look through the runners and still don't get it..........look again says them......fookers..the penny drops........William H Bonney:o They and others got some real fancy prices about him so the money is down and he's 8/1 now so I am waiting until the day and hopefully he will drift a bit....bit of 11 on the machine for small money
 
I like Zubayr at the prices. Closely matched with Consul de Thaix at the weights on Sandown running and twice the price.


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Yeah, my 3 against the field are William H Bonney. Zubayr & Song Light

Dont think anything in the race will travel better than Song Light so could be a good trade bet @ 16-1. Wouldn't it be great for a small trainer like Seamus Mullins to put the big boys to the sword.

Zubayr is well treated but has to improve his jumping. Was only 11-2 to win at Festival last year, so can see why the current 14-1 will appeal.

William H Bonney is the improver in the race and will be very effective if soft ground and 9-1 looks fair.
 
damn, Clyne dropped to 5/1, he was about value at 9s when I looked on monday but now leaving the race alone.
 
Renneti is hardly a young improver; neither was he when dotting up by 14l in a hot Naas 12f race 18 months ago. Carried top weight on hvy ground in that race too.
His 2nd to Jezki was possibly timed as a prep for this and though he didn't frighten his rival (giving him 6lbs) he certainly gave him a race withot Ruby ever resorting to the stick. Highly respectable time, too.
Generally 16/1, although he'll be considerably should Ruby opt for him.
 
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Renneti is hardly a young improver; neither was he when dotting up by 14l in a hot Naas 12f race 18 months ago. Carried top weight on hvy ground in that race too.
His 2nd to Jezki was possibly timed as a prep for this and though he didn't frighten his rival (giving him 6lbs) he certainly gave him a race withot Ruby ever resorting to the stick. Highly respectable time, too.
Generally 16/1, although he'll be considerably should Ruby opt for him.
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The key to his chance will be not giving the race away at the start, can be a bit tricky that way.

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This looks pretty weak to me this year and all the vibes were that Jezki was ready to roll on his comeback and if he was within a stone of his best then Renneti outperformed his 151 BHA rating by going down under 2 lengths in attempting the give the 167 rated and former Champion Hurdler 6lb. Tombstone was back in fourth having his first outing since chasing home Altior, Min and Buveur Dair in the Supreme.

That was Renneti's first run over hurdles since the ultra competitive 2015 Ladbroke when he'd have won the race off a mark of 147 had he not been given too much to do (good ride nonetheless). Sternrubin set a really fierce pace that day and Renetti was last with three to jump before a strong finish gave him 3rd place.

Despite top weight on Saturday he's only 4lb higher than that Ascot race and Sternrubin - whom he was 2 lengths behind - is now rated 143 having ran off 134 that day.

His only other two hurdle runs that season saw him win a weak Sligo race before finishing 4th in the equally competitive Greatwood when he was attempting to give weight to Old Guard and Superb Story, over a stone in the case of the latter !

Prior to that the only defeat he suffered over hurdles in his novice campaign when he stood up (or elected to race !) was when he finished second in the Royal Bond with Arctic Fire a length back in third.

Rated 108 on the flat after hacking up in the October handicap at Naas in that sphere - and despite being a bit of a nut job - Renneti's form bears the closest scrutiny and even off 151 I'd have lumped on by now at the 16s available (29 on the machine) if it wasn't for the fact he's trained by WPM and so could easily not be among the final decs, though the trainer has no other entries at present and Renneti has no other engagements.

Even so I've had to have a nibble at that 29.
 
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Renetti has a Wicklow Brave campaign from 2 years ago written all over him. I eventually gave up on WB after poor runs in the Betfair and the imperial cup (only 1 week before festival) and then he absolutely dotted up in the County. If you fancy Renetti my advice would be to keep the faith even if he disappointed this weekend. He's currwntly 25/1 for the County hurdle. OR 152 was top weight in last year's County and Renetti currently 151 with English handicapper. I wouldn't at all be surprised to see a ride this weekend that would be aimed at getting him dropped 2 - 4 lbs. Ruby rode WB at Newbury & Sandown and then to throw the dogs off the scent and complete the smokescreen Townend rode him in the county! Watch this space
 
Hard to argue with any of that but if I'd let him go unbacked for this at 29 and he won I wouldn't be around to see the County.
 
No prices on oddschecker for Krugermac. Does that mean he's a NR ?



edit.. just found out why, Renetti (topweight) runs so Krugermac 6lb wrong at weights, Moore going to run him at Ascot next weekend instead
 
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Surely all this money for Song Light is just the Chesterfield backers trying to get their money back.

Fancy something with a more recent run myself.
 
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Consul De Thaix an unlikely runner according to connections in today's RP.
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Yes, I saw that. The horse has been favourite or vying for favouritism since the market was formed and punters find this out now, on the eve of final decs.
 
Owned by JP now so first Sutton Place and now Consul De Thaix. They just need to withdraw MWTT now to complete the hat trick and really screw over AP punters.
 
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The Gordon Elliott trained Veinard ran an eye catching race in the coral handicap hurdle in Ireland at the weekend. Looked to be absolutely cruising coming to the last, but seemed to leave his finishing effort just too late and saw a wall of horses in front of him. Probably no chance of getting in to the Betfair, but definitely very well handicapped off OR 126 imo. Although an 8yo and he has run in a few competitive h'cap hurdle races, I think he might actually still be a novice. Certainly one that intrigues me!
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And Veinard crept in at the bottom of the weights too. 25/1 with Sky Bet 4 places is most appealing. Do any bookies ever go 5 places on this on the day?
 
Skybet will definitely go 5 place DH and I'd imagine Bet365 too. If they had any balls Betfair would go 6 places on the day, being the sponsor and all. Skybet might but it'll be 1/5 odds.

Time to reload on Renneti then - if he's still in the race.
 
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Skybet will definitely go 5 place DH and I'd imagine Bet365 too. If they had any balls Betfair would go 6 places on the day, being the sponsor and all. Skybet might but it'll be 1/5 odds.

Time to reload on Renneti then - if he's still in the race.
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This year we are going to have an unusually small field, already down to 18..... I'd be very surprised if anyone goes 6 places in this.

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I agree. If all 18 ran Skybet might - they went 5 places on their own race a couple of weeks back with only 13 runners - but it's unlikely. 5 places is a 1.01 though.
 
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Skybet will definitely go 5 place DH and I'd imagine Bet365 too. If they had any balls Betfair would go 6 places on the day, being the sponsor and all. Skybet might but it'll be 1/5 odds.

Time to reload on Renneti then - if he's still in the race.
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Skybet appear to have 2 markets at present. Veinard is 25/1 with Skybet via oddschecker - normal ante post rules apply. However, if you go directly to Skybet it's a non runner money back market, but Veinard is only 14/1 here. Both markets currently offering 4 places.
 
They did exactly the same thing on the Skybet chase (see other thread) but then went 5 places NRNB on Friday afternoon.
 
Prices going up suggest Renneti hasn't been declared.

It was only a score but FFS what was I thinking playing Willie Mullins Bingo.
 
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