Champion Hurdle 2014

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Willhill - Xmas hurdle match bet
TNO 8/11
MTOY EVS

 

[Jakers]

Dessie Hughes sounds very confident of serving it up to Hurricane Fly in those comments, looking forwad to the 29th providing a few actually turn up it should be a very telling race.

 

[granger]

Fighting talk. Lets hope they all make the track.

 

[Bar the Bull]

Two nice hurdles races over Christmas.

 

[LUKE]

In ireland of course they would have been Grade 1 races - they seem to have a 3 runner Grade 1 just about every Sunday nowadays

We can only apologize for not running a meeting of the calibre of Southwell yesterday.

 

[Grasshopper]

Fighting talk. Lets hope they all make the track.

Never had Dessie Hughes down as a fishwife......until today.

 

[EC1]

Never had Dessie Hughes down as a fishwife......until today.

when you see how good OC is this year you will be a fan Grass..we are in for a treat imo..the next Golden Cygnet hopefully

seeing will be believing i think

 

[JamesRB]

Willhill - Xmas hurdle match bet
TNO 8/11
MTOY EVS

SJ gone 6/5 MTOY

sorely tempting but wonder if there might be even more juice in the price nearer the time.

going to be two very interesting CH trials over xmas it seems. lets hope there's no injuries or bottle job no shows.

 

[Grasshopper]

when you see how good OC is this year you will be a fan Grass..we are in for a treat imo..the next Golden Cygnet hopefully

seeing will be believing i think

I'm already a fan, EC.

 

[wilsonl]

Considering Kempton looks ideal for MTOY and the fact that TNO will be turning out again so quickly - and surely there's still a slight chance they will change their minds about running him given STD's post race comments - the 8/1 about MTOY winning the Christmas Hurdle and then the Champion is great value if you fancy the horse for March.

The risk is not knowing what the opposition will be next week but would there be many horses who'd be fancied to beat MTOY on a track like this ?

 

[clivex]

MTOY and TNO wins this season have come in race that would have been rubbished as 'soft and uncompetitve' if they'd been run in Ireland.

Well I think that deserves a chiponshouldergetafuckinglife letter to the racing post

 

[granger]

Thurles Sunday

(1:20) 339C Horse & Jockey Hotel H'dle €10,695.00
( 2m - 4yo+ )[MAX 18]
NHFrm
D8113 1 Carriganog (APO'Brien) - . ................. (136)
64183 2 Dalasiri (SJHarty) - . ........................... (133)
71134 3 Diplomat (USA) (DKWeld) - . ............. (132)
12134 4 Massini's Trap (JANash) - . ............... (134)
4-02- 5 Our Ollie (PJGilligan) - . ..............................
2//-1 6 Rolly Baby (FR) (WPMullins) - . .................
23565 7 Rory O'Moore (RO'Neill) - . ................ (126)
f564f 8 Un Beau Matin (GElliott) - . ................ (135)
11 9 Un De Sceaux (FR) (WPMullins) - . .... (156)

 

[Grasshopper]

Well I think that deserves a chiponshouldergetafuckinglife letter to the racing post

Correcting the vision of some of the myopics on here is plenty to be going on with.

 

[simmo]

Serious question.

Without checking - how many open Grade 1 hurdles do we think are run in Ireland and Britain? And how many of them are generally viewed as competitive?

 

[BennyB]

Without looking it up, 8 or 9. Would say only 2 or 3 are genuinely competitive, though of course that's subjective.

 

[simmo]

Without looking it up, 8 or 9. Would say only 2 or 3 are genuinely competitive, though of course that's subjective.

and what would be the split of those 8 or 9 between Ireland and Britain.

 

[Euronymous]

Seen a thread over at OH Racing which casts major doubts over The New One based on the times last Saturday.

 

[simmo]

I'll get to the point - there are 5 in Ireland and 3 in Britain.

The last 4 Champion Hurdles combined have seen around 29 runners from the UK and 16 from Ireland.

Which tells me 2 things.

People who say that Irish Grade 1 hurdles are uncompetitive are probably right.

British trainers are missing a trick by not getting their Viking helmets out and going a-raiding more often.

 

[Bar the Bull]

But there is probably more money in (say) the International Hurdle than (say) the Morgiana, no?

 

[simmo]

But there is probably more money in (say) the International Hurdle than (say) the Morgiana, no?

fair point, there is (£74k vs £41k). I'm obviously just a pot bagging glory hunter. (even the Irish Christmas one is only £47k).

I withdraw my point about British raiders.

 

[Bar the Bull]

I think you have no option but to resign from the forum in disgrace.

Terrible stuff.

 

[Grey]

I'll get to the point - there are 5 in Ireland and 3 in Britain.

The last 4 Champion Hurdles combined have seen around 29 runners from the UK and 16 from Ireland.

Which tells me 2 things.

People who say that Irish Grade 1 hurdles are uncompetitive are probably right.

British trainers are missing a trick by not getting their Viking helmets out and going a-raiding more often.

Only three in the UK? You're only thinking of the 2m hurdles. I reckon there are 7 altogether

 

[simmo]

Only three in the UK? You're only thinking of the 2m hurdles. I reckon there are 7 altogether

Quite right 5 2m Gd1 in Ireland and 3 2m Gd1 in the UK

 

[simmo]

I think you have no option but to resign from the forum in disgrace.

Terrible stuff.

I'm never posting here again. This sort of treatment is the type of thing that gives fora a bad name.

 

[EC1]

Seen a thread over at OH Racing which casts major doubts over The New One based on the times last Saturday.

really?