Cheltenham Race Reviews

Olly Murphy had two fancied runners, Brewinupastorm and Itchy Feet, both UR.
I'm sure with the benefit of hindsight he'd have got more match practice into them
 
Olly Murphy had two fancied runners, Brewinupastorm and Itchy Feet, both UR.
I'm sure with the benefit of hindsight he'd have got more match practice into them

Itchy Feet was the most overrated horse going into the festival. An ordinary hurdle horse with ordinary chase form.
 
We've obviously seen evidence of Skelton copying his old boss's modus operandi too. He's not afraid to plot one for a couple of years. What he lacks among his vast number of horses is the big money purchases though. I think he's missed the boat and he's viewed as more of a Martin Pipe than a Gordon Elliott.

Joseph hasn't yet learnt properly, but given those around him it shouldn't be long before he joins the party. Still too much of his old man in him, in that all he really wants graded winners. He'll learn, and JP and Fran will get him with the programme.

The one to watch is Olly Murphy. He's starting to get good young horses and he has Gordon as his mentor. If he can attract the right owners he'll be lethal. He's doing a pretty good job now with Saturday and midweek handicappers, but it was noticeable how many more expensive horses he had last season. I'm sure we can expect the same this season, and another twelve months will almost certainly be the tipping point where he gets backed or goes backward.

Interesting that none of Nicky's protege have really threatened, and Willie's is pretty much a closed shop so there aren't any spin-offs, although I reckon nephew Emmett is worth watching.

Will Ruby take over from his old man at some point? If so, he'll get the owners and he'll know how to deliver.

Emmet is in trouble because he is a known cheat with a target on his back. Don't expect him to make big waves rather land the odd touch.
 
Olly Murphy had two fancied runners, Brewinupastorm and Itchy Feet, both UR.
I'm sure with the benefit of hindsight he'd have got more match practice into them

Yup.

Painful viewing for Murphy knowing what could/would have been.
 
Then you've missed some good returns over the last few seasons. Not sure why you'd strike a line through in advance. Particularly the juvenile hcap hurdle, the Coral Cup, and the Martin Pipe where his win and place record in recent seasons is really good..

Name the winners I've missed compared to focusing on Irish plots?
 
Ah lads stop. It pains me that even after Cheltenham has been run people can't just admit they were wrong about horses.

Behave! They both unseated which I had in mind could happen given their preps going in.
 
Speaking of "up and coming" trainers, what has happened to Harry Fry? Other than if the cap fits and youknowhatimeanharry I couldn't name a horse he trains

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Does it give you a rating?

The idea that Itchy Feet was unlucky is astounding to me. He unseated before the race had started. He's not good enough to mix it in races like that. If it makes you feel better thinking you've had an unlucky bet, than work away. The best horses in the race fought out the finish and nothing traveled and jumped as well as the winner. He will destroy Itchy Feet when they meet again.

and Olly Murphy isn't a very good trainer.
 
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Emmet is in trouble because he is a known cheat with a target on his back. Don't expect him to make big waves rather land the odd touch.

Who has got their sights on him Slim?

Is it through his association with the ex Rp man? I hear he is Premier League now
 
The idea that Itch Feet was unlucky is astounding to me. He unseated before the race had started. He's not good enough to mix it in races like that. If it makes you feel better thinking you've had an unlucky bet, than work away. The best horses in the race fought out the finish and nothing traveled and jumped as well as the winner. He will destroy Itch Feet when they meet again.

and Olly Murphy isn't a very good trainer.

Who said he was unlucky? You don't jump you don't win simple as that. The point is clearly wanting to know what would have happened at the finish given plenty of novices improve.
Hardly a Vautour like winner.
Don't think either of his will be top notch but they were winnable races.

Plenty of other shorties made less appeal to me going in even with doubts on his two.
 
Who has got their sights on him Slim?

Is it through his association with the ex Rp man? I hear he is Premier League now

Yes to your last two points but I'll be saying no more than that. Other incidents too which will have been missed by most. Willie has warned him to clean up his act. When he enters one in a handicap in the UK the handicapper gives him two fingers.
 
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Who said he was unlucky? You don't jump you don't win simple as that. The point is clearly wanting to know what would have happened at the finish given plenty of novices improve.
Hardly a Vautour like winner.
Don't think either of his will be top notch but they were winnable races.

Plenty of other shorties made less appeal to me going in even with doubts on his two.

Itchy Feet would have been ran over. Hope this clears this up.
 
Name the winners I've missed compared to focusing on Irish plots?
I don't really understand why you'd ask the question Slim. Do you think plots don't happen in England too? Both Henderson and Nicholls, and to a lesser extent Skelton have all plotted plenty of winners at the Festival over the last two or three seasons. Why would you ignore them? I don't disagree that you'll find more Irish plots, but I don't understand why you'd ignore the English ones.

Anyhow, I'm not quite sure why I'm listing these, but English horses won 4 from 10 handicaps. Below are the win and place horses that were plotted to some degree at this years Festival. I haven't included Indefatigable because she would have been beaten by Column Of Fire. I did however have her as a well handicapped horse through her already franked formline with Dame De Compagne so easily could have done.

The Conditional
Imperial Aura
Dame De Compagne
Simply the Betts

Kildisart
Hold The Note
Night Edition
Kilfilum Cross
Pileon

All of the horses were on my radar as well handicapped or plotted in some way, and apart from Night Edition none of them were hard to find. Why would I ignore them and just assume an Irish winner?!
 
Behave! They both unseated which I had in mind could happen given their preps going in.
Frankel, we discussed this on another thread pre Cheltenham, where you were very strong on itchy feet.

I opposed him strongly based on form, jumping and lack of tactical speed. You disagreed at the time, which of course is your right.

The bit you seem to be leaving out in this post festival debate, was his price!! You thought he was a good thing and by association, thought he was a good price at 4/1 or 5/1 fav.

Not only was he priced too short on his form alone, he was priced as though he was a much better jumper than he was and priced as though he had a lot more experience than he did.

He's an average horse and he was an absolutely septic price.
 
Frankel, we discussed this on another thread pre Cheltenham, where you were very strong on itchy feet.

I opposed him strongly based on form, jumping and lack of tactical speed. You disagreed at the time, which of course is your right.

The bit you seem to be leaving out in this post festival debate, was his price!! You thought he was a good thing and by association, thought he was a good price at 4/1 or 5/1 fav.

Not only was he priced too short on his form alone, he was priced as though he was a much better jumper than he was and priced as though he had a lot more experience than he did.

He's an average horse and he was an absolutely septic price.

I was hardly strong on him but eventually you have to nail your colours. Given doubts on the first two home and a 12 year old. My colours were nailed incorrectly even if my doubts were seen to be true.

Already said I don't think either of his will be top notch.
As for price, not sure it was anymore septic than the SP of Relegate!
 
As for Skelton plotting winners I think you'll find it was the owners (massive Irish punters) who planned the County Hurdle winner last year.
 
No real opinion on it. Don't think the division is up to much. Wouldn't want to be on any of the field in open company.

So it was a very winnable race then.

Agree about not having strong opinion on them going forward.
 
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I was hardly strong on him but eventually you have to nail your colours. Given doubts on the first two home and a 12 year old. My colours were nailed incorrectly even if my doubts were seen to be true.

Already said I don't think either of his will be top notch.
As for price, not sure it was anymore septic than the SP of Relegate!
Without checking back, I think you said something like "The Marsh is simple, Itchy feet just wins, doesn't he".

Not sure what Relegate has to do with the Marsh chase? Can only assume it's a subtle dig at me, knowing I was on him.

If so, I'll retort by reminding you that I was on him at 50/1 - that's the difference.

And emphasises my original point the price dictates the value of every bet.
 
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