Hennessy Cognac Gold Cup

EC1 said:
One horse that has had a run but looks to be about 14lbs in hand of its mark is Highland Lodge.

Have discussed this race on the "fast race" thread where i cobbled together a rough guide to the merits of its last run. Have had a go at compiling traditional speed figure of that complete meeting [Oct 27] and the figures i get are 127 for Standing Ovation....won easily off 120 yesterday...and about 150 for Highland Lodge.

Worth a shot at the prices
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On The Bridle - It was something about a malfunctioning stopwatch.
 
The 12/1 for Lord Windermere is slowly drying up. He's not out of the Gold Cup picture either.
 
SlimChance said:
Hard to find a negative about second season chasers but he's got to have a massive chance. I've taken the 12/1.
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Culloty said: “I know trainers say horses have grown and strengthened over the summer, and that’s normally because they have come out of a field fairly fat, but after Robbie McNamara schooled him this morning he told me he is twice the horse he was last year.

“He has done plenty of work and is as fit as you’d expect any horse to be first time out. He has been away from home on three occasions and did a blinding piece of work last week when I rode him over a mile at the Curragh. He jumped brilliantly this morning and it’s all systems go. I think he has got a great chance. I really fancy him.”
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It wouldn't surprise me if Culloty can't tie his own laces......the campaigning of this horse as a novice hurdler was **** poor....
 
Very open race, I too have opted for Invictus even though the long lay off is a worry, he really does look to be thrown in.

Also a bit each way on one at a bigger price, the Tizzard's are all the rage at the moment and they are also quite adept at getting one of theirs to run a big race in these large field handicaps, taken 33's about Theatre Guide, hope to get a run for my money though he could just as easily blunder his chances away on the first circuit.
 
Iirc a large number of forum members were on Looks Like Trouble who won the RSA, in the race in which Nick Dundee fell whilst in the lead. Many I imagine also backed LLT for the Gold Cup the following year when he also won.
This year a significant number of us were on Lord Windermere for the RSA in which Boston Bob fell when in the lead. Again I imagine there are quite a few members who will back, or already have backed, Lord Windermere for the Gold Cup. I hope the similarities continue.
 
Tout Seul said:
Iirc a large number of forum members were on Looks Like Trouble who won the RSA, in the race in which Nick Dundee fell whilst in the lead. Many I imagine also backed LLT for the Gold Cup the following year when he also won.
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Happy, happy memories!!
 
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I had a look at the race this morning.

I suspect Willie Mullins is targeting the race very seriously. He seems to have an exceptionally strong hand. Prince De Beauchene and On His Own have had exclusively Grand National preparations over the last couple of seasons so he must believe they are seriously well handicapped. Terminal finished well in the RSA after a monumental blunder put him out of it. Vesper Bell lost out in a photo in a very competitive stamina test at Punchestown.

I reckon whichever Ruby opts for must go very close.
 
Regardless of who wins ( Rocky Creek for me) I don't see how Lord Windemere can finish in front of Hadrians Approach :confused:
 
granger said:
How, why
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HA is thought a lot of at Seven Barrows and consequently ran in a Grade 2 ( fell when looking like winning) and in a Grade 1 ( the Feltham) last season. I have heard he has had extensive schooling since his run at Kempton this month and although beaten by nearly eight lengths by LW in the RSA in March I think LW's mark now means he will struggle to beat HA this time around.
 
Hadrians Approach gets 8 lbs for an 8 length beating, therefore it would hardly come as the biggest shock if Lord Windermere beat him again Diamond?

In my view, Lord Windermere was value for more than the 8 length margin given he nearly came down on the turn in and consequently had to be switched around runners. He still came there to take Lyreen Legend impressively.

That was the furthest he's gone and he looked to improve for the trip, so it's not the stuff of fantasy to believe he may improve again for another step up on Saturday. He's my selection for the race.

Hadrians Approach isn't a good enough jumper for me. He should relish the trip however and if putting in a decent round he has every chance.
 
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