Novice Chasers 2020 / 2021

littlelad said:
Another example of why the marsh chase is a disaster. We now have 3 top class novices and they all jump around and win on the bridle @1/2.

But this is the pinnacle, the "Olympics of horseracing".

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This year yes but last year the Marsh was not far off being the best race of the Festival.
 
HawkWing said:
Has there been a good Arkle since Sprinter Sacre beat Cue Card?
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i guess Douvan beating off a future gold cup winner in 2nd reads pretty well historically but it was always viewed as pretty much a one horse race.

Simonsig v Overturn was hyped up as a "race of the festival" but the latter disappointed and ran no sort of race in the ground, and the former was far from spectacular as well.

can't think of any other that warrants a mention.
 
Douvan in sectional times outperformed Sprinter Sacre in the Arkle and was awesome....but have to agree nothing since has lived up to them since....Altior was a good horse but beat rubbish in his Arkle,
 
Euronymous said:
This year yes but last year the Marsh was not far off being the best race of the Festival.
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It was an excellent race last year alright.

The problem is that while the pool of horses can be big enough to fill 3 races in open company (QMCC, Ryanair, gold cup), you'll never have anywhere near as many good novices to fill 4 options.



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Grasshopper said:
I'm holding 37/1 the treble, and will be perfectly happy if that's how it plays-out!
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that' a great crystal ball you have. Can only assume you placed your bet last March April....getting the right races too I wouldn't have had a clue...good luck mate I have similar only my odds are nearer 7/1:lol:
 
Grasshopper said:
I'm holding 37/1 the treble, and will be perfectly happy if that's how it plays-out!
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that' a great crystal ball you have. Can only assume you placed your bet last March April....getting the right races too I wouldn't have had a clue...good luck mate I have similar only my odds are nearer 7/1:lol:
 
7/4 Shish
4/1 The Monk
7/4 Envoi

36.81/1 the treble. Was struck maybe just before the Xmas meetings - can’t remember.
 
Without actually comitting to it, Venetia pretty much confirmed that they are leaning towards the NHC in her interview on RUK just now, more or less ruled out the RSA or what every they call it now and was also very keen to play down the GC hype, I dont think she is one for putting people away so I would be very confident that if Venetia has the final say it will be all roads to the old four miler.

EDIT - talking about Royal Pagaille obviously!
 
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Beef or Salmon said:
Without actually comitting to it, Venetia pretty much confirmed that they are leaning towards the NHC in her interview on RUK just now, more or less ruled out the RSA or what every they call it now and was also very keen to play down the GC hype, I dont think she is one for putting people away so I would be very confident that if Venetia has the final say it will be all roads to the old four miler.

EDIT - talking about Royal Pagaille obviously!
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Hmm. Mixed feelings about the news. Having backed him at 50s and laid off to the stake at 11.5 I was okay with that. I never got the chance to lay off the place portion (couldn't see how to access the market and have only just come across it but it's 10 to place lay, suggesting definite NR) so I'll lose a small amount on that. But I've got 9/1 to win any race for a fair amount. I took that on the assumption he'd go for one of the novice races. I was already on Galvin at 10/1 for the NH Chase and I still reckon he would be a cert in RP's absence.

Edit - just laid off the Galvin stake at around 11/4. RP seems quite long for the NHC at Betfair. Is it possible it's not going to run at all?
 
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Desert Orchid said:
Hmm. Mixed feelings about the news. Having backed him at 50s and laid off to the stake at 11.5 I was okay with that. I never got the chance to lay off the place portion (couldn't see how to access the market and have only just come across it but it's 10 to place lay, suggesting definite NR) so I'll lose a small amount on that. But I've got 9/1 to win any race for a fair amount. I took that on the assumption he'd go for one of the novice races. I was already on Galvin at 10/1 for the NH Chase and I still reckon he would be a cert in RP's absence.

Edit - just laid off the Galvin stake at around 11/4. RP seems quite long for the NHC at Betfair. Is it possible it's not going to run at all?
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I backed a max bet with Skybet at 10/11 that RP would go for the Gold Cup. Absolutely foolish.

Galvin has changed yards I read, gone to a P2P trainer. Not sure who, sure i saw it as i was scrolling Twitter
 
Double J said:
I backed a max bet with Skybet at 10/11 that RP would go for the Gold Cup. Absolutely foolish.

Galvin has changed yards I read, gone to a P2P trainer. Not sure who, sure i saw it as i was scrolling Twitter
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He went to Ian Ferguson who trained him before he went to Elliott. He seems very able and I have no worries.
 
Ian Ferguson bought him, broke him and pre-trained him but ended up being sent to GE without running in any point to points for some reason.
 
Tom Scu is jocked-up on a horse for Nick Williams in the Ultima on Tuesday, which suggests Remastered is perhaps more likely to run in the NH Chase the same day, and I’d give him a decent chance, if he does so.

Whilst there’s a question about whether he’ll handle quicker ground, Tuesday is likely to be as soft as it gets next week, and I wouldn’t have too many concerns about the trip, as he gives the impression of being a really thorough stayer. He also puts it all in, which I think you need in a race like this. Have availed myself of Powers 12/1.
 
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Beef or Salmon said:
Without actually comitting to it, Venetia pretty much confirmed that they are leaning towards the NHC in her interview on RUK just now, more or less ruled out the RSA or what every they call it now and was also very keen to play down the GC hype, I dont think she is one for putting people away so I would be very confident that if Venetia has the final say it will be all roads to the old four miler.

EDIT - talking about Royal Pagaille obviously!
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Couldn't have got that more wrong! Perhaps Rich Ricci is enjoying having a say!!
 
I've just struck my biggest festival bet since taking Zanahiyr at 5/1 for the Triumph.

In tomorrow's RSA (whatever) I've grown very sweet on Sporting John. I'm a big fan of Monkfish but on my figures there's no way they should be 4/7 and 11/1 apart.

There are only six runners but there is a market without Monkfish and in it I've taken 4/1 ew Sporting John. I'd compare it as being offered 4/1 ew Champ in last year's race.

Sporting John has always had a huge reputation and won going away last time despite being ridden like a complete non-trier in the first half of the race. I reckon he's much better than that bare form on which he would have almost as good a chance as Monkfish anyway.

Only Tricky Dicky can get this one beat...
 
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