Paddy Power Gold Cup

Euronymous said:
I cannot understand this at all. Leading chance if he runs.

The market is top heavy with the higher rated horses (walkon apart) and I'll be looking for something lower down the handicap now. Havingotascoobydo had a reasonable pipe opener the other weekend and I'm kind of intrigued that Ghizao is still with Nicholls. I'd have half expected that horse to be jettisoned after a disappointing 2011/12.
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At a guess I'd say it's the owner request he goes for the King George (Entertaining business friends and all that jazz) I just can't see Martin Keighly over facing him like that, it has to be the nuttiest decision ever he simply doesn't have the speed it takes to win a King George or even get placed. :confused:

Havingotascoobydo did finish 2nd to Nicky Henderson's Thanks For That at the meeting last season so it's perfectly possible he could run well off a low weight.
 
the handicapper has been generous with FNS

I imagine they will try then the big hcp at cheltenham in the Bula meeting
 
Even without the impost (11lbs actually), Cheltenham's 2.5m would probably be at the very top of his stamina range - at the level he is now obliged to operate.
 
Weights announce November 7th

THE PADDY POWER GOLD CUP
Class 1, Grade 3, £160,000 Total Prize Fund. 2.35pm,. Cheltenham, Saturday, November 17, 2012. For 4yo+, 2m 4f
110yds. Entries closed October 30, entries revealed October 31 (44 entries), weights revealed November 7. Penalties: after
November 4, a winner of a chase 5lb (no penalty to increase a horse’s weight above 11st 12lb). Five-day confirmation stage
November 12, final 48-hour declaration stage 10.00am, November 15. Form figures supplied by Weatherbys and are correct
up to and including the racing of Monday, October 29.


Form Horse Age Owner Trainer
2/41412- AERIAL (FR) 6 Tony Hayward and Barry Fulton Paul Nicholls
1/11343- AL FEROF (FR) 7 John Hales Paul Nicholls
F/05110- CALGARY BAY (IRE) 9 Camilla Radford Mick Channon
336-120 CASEY TOP (IRE) 9 Casey Brothers Syndicate Leonard Whitmore IRE
123122- CHAMPION COURT (IRE) 7 Mark Boothright Martin Keighley
3PP/212- CRIQTONIC (FR) 5 Axom XXXIII Paul Nicholls
50/11P2- CRISTAL BONUS (FR) 6 Robin Geffen Paul Nicholls
01P11-F DARNA 6 Julie Martin and David Martin Kim Bailey
3U040-0 DIVERS (FR) 8 Let's Live Racing Ferdy Murphy
435216- EDGARDO SOL (FR) 5 Axom XXXII Paul Nicholls
F0-3633 FINGER ONTHE PULSE (IRE) 11 J P McManus Jonjo O'Neill
22213-1 FOR NON STOP (IRE) 7 Potensis Limited & Chris Giles Nick Williams
33464-2 FORPADYDEPLASTERER (IRE) 10 Goat Racing Syndicate Thomas Cooper IRE
F021F3 FOSTERS CROSS (IRE) 10 Pat O'Donovan Thomas Mullins IRE
152/460- GHIZAO (GER) 8 The Johnson & Stewart FamiliesPaul Nicholls
3P0F-30 GILBARRY (IRE) 7 Mrs Peter Bond Jonjo O'Neill
5/2100-0 GIORGIO QUERCUS (FR) 7 Seasons Holidays Nicky Henderson
2/61114- GRANDS CRUS (FR) 7 Roger Stanley & Yvonne Reynolds III David Pipe
123F2-0 HAVINGOTASCOOBYDO (IRE) 7 D Bishop C Bowkley M Parker M Thornton Martin Keighley
211113- HUNT BALL (IRE) 7 Anthony Knott Keiran Burke
2P6244 JAMSIE HALL (IRE) 9 Teresa Mangan Gordon Elliott IRE
4/011/-11 KALELLSHAN (IRE) 9 Liam O'Kelly Denis Hogan IRE
1F-211F KINGSMERE 7 Hamer & Hawkes Henry Daly
11F314- MENORAH (IRE) 7 Diana Whateley Philip Hobbs
140124- MICHEAL FLIPS (IRE) 8 Martin Tedham Andy Turnell
603/10-1 NADIYA DE LA VEGA (FR) 6 J P McManus Nicky Henderson
11323F- NOTUS DE LA TOUR (FR) 6 D Bradshaw,J Dale,P Deal,J Smee,W Walsh David Pipe
05F132 ORDINARY MAN (IRE) 7 Simply The Best Syndicate Liam Burke IRE
411114- PEPITE ROSE (FR) 5 Falcons Line Ltd Venetia Williams
41/5U26- POQUELIN (FR) 9 The Stewart Family Paul Nicholls
2/02105- QUANTITATIVEEASING (IRE) 7 J P McManus Nicky Henderson
26/0-023 QUESTIONS ANSWERED (IRE) 7 B Graham Eric McNamara IRE
11264-1 SOLIX (FR) 6 Paul Vogt Ian Williams
3/1F32P- TANKS FOR THAT (IRE) 9 Bridget Hanbury Nicky Henderson
06050-6 TARTAK (FR) 9 Power Panels Electrical Systems Ltd Tim Vaughan
S41141 THE DISENGAGER (IRE) 8 Govier & Brown Philip Hobbs
1/15001- THE KNOXS (IRE) 9 Andrea & Graham Wylie Paul Nicholls
5/25145- TIME FOR RUPERT (IRE) 8 Littlecote Racing Partnership Paul Webber
12541-1 TIPTOEAWAY (IRE) 7 Trevor Hemmings Tim Easterby
023-031 TORPHICHEN 7 J P McManus Edward O'Grady IRE
41110-2 TRIOLO D'ALENE (FR) 5 Mr & Mrs Sandy Orr Nicky Henderson
23400-4 VINO GRIEGO (FR) 7 C E Stedman Gary Moore
0/1345P- WALKON (FR) 7 McNeill Family Alan King
26F25-2 WISHFULL THINKING 9 Diana Whateley Philip Hobbs

44 entries
8 Irish-trained
 
Weights out ten days before the race. This is the sort of thing these lazy pricks at racing for change should be looking at. Should be three weeks.
 
Hmmn.

Al Ferof introduced by the sponsors at 14/1? And no bigger than 20 to back on Betfair, with nary a sheckel being requested?

The plot continues to thicken. :ninja:
 
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Tanlic said:
I was hoping Martin Keightley would sens Champion Court for this but he's had a rush of blood to the head and he goes elsewhere before heading for the King George:blink: I wish him luck with that project.
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Word locally is that he will run in a race AT KEMPTON to see if he acts on the course before committing to the KG and if he runs well in that would go for the Gold Cup, otherwise the Ryanair.
 
What's the max number of runners?

I like Notus de la tour at first glance but I wouldn't be having a bet yet.
 
There doesn't seem that many progressive types lurking at the bottom of the ratings. Walkon could be one but I don't trust him over fences. Happy with my position on For Non Stop and he should place if he gets round at least.
 
Recent Paddy Power Gold Cup Winners

2011 – Great Endeavour (8/1)
2010 – Little Josh (20/1)
2009 – Tranquil Sea (11/2 fav)
2008 – Imperial Commander (13/2)
2007 – L’Antartique (13/2)
2006 – Exotic Dancer (16/1)
2005 – Our Vic (9/2 fav)
2004 – Celestial Gold (12/1)
2003 – Fondmort (3/1 fav)
2002 – Cyfor Malta (16/1)

Paddy Power Gold Cup Trends

10/10 – Had run at Cheltenham before
10/10 – Had won over at least 2m4f over fences before
9/10 – Won by a UK-based trainer
8/10 – Aged 6 or 7 years-old
7/10 – Had won just 2 or 3 times over fences before
7/10 – Finished in the top 4 last time out
7/10 – Carried 10-13 or less
7/10 – Had won at Cheltenham before
6/10 – Won by a horse in the first 3 in the betting
6/10 – Placed favourites
6/10 – Aged 7 years-old
4/10 – Won their last race
5/10 – Won this on their seasonal reappearance
4/10 – Trained by the Pipe stable
3/10 – Winning favourites
3/10 – Ran at Carlisle last time out
3/10 – Ran at Cheltenham last time out
3/10 – Ridden by Timmy Murphy
The average winning SP in the last 10 years is 10/1
The last winner aged in double-figures was in 1975
Paul Nicholls has saddled just 6 placed horses (no winners) from his last 21 runners
 
One lurking right at the bottom of the weights & possibly the most unexposed in the field is Triolo D'Alene. Henderson talked him up for the Novices Hcap Chase that Hunt Ball won at the festival.
 
jft2005 said:
One lurking right at the bottom of the weights & possibly the most unexposed in the field is Triolo D'Alene. Henderson talked him up for the Novices Hcap Chase that Hunt Ball won at the festival.
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Is that the horse BG said was a stone well in and Anthony Honeyball instructed his jockey to scream "Barry where are you" during the race?!
 
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Champion Court bypasses the Paddy Power & now heads for Ascot's Amlin Chase. Havingotascoobydo also misses the PP & has options at Ascot.
 
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