Surely the likes of Intello is head and shoulders above this one? Flintshire was beaten in a conditions race and then beat Park Reel in a G3.
Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe 2013
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Surely the likes of Intello is head and shoulders above this one? Flintshire was beaten in a conditions race and then beat Park Reel in a G3.
Euronymous
Senior Jockey
He beat Park Reel a lot easier than Ocovango did earlier in the season and as a Dansili colt it's fair to assume the ground in that conditions race he was beat in was way softer than he liked.
It doesn't matter how much better Intello is because that horse is not a 12f animal.
I've taken 7/2 about Flintshire for Saturday's race. Decent value.
Where?
Euronymous
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The dude that has the banner on here: https://www.racebets.com/en/horse-racing/
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I don’t see why he shouldn’t get 12f... Don’t confuse ability to quicken with not staying a mile-and-a-half. But whether he gets 12f or not I was questioning IS’s statment that “Flintshire will be the best of the French horses (possibly European)”... no mention of trip here.
Good luck. He'll have to improve about half a stone to get past Ocovango and BoM though, which would still likely put him well short of the best in Europe.
They're making Flintshire 6/4 fav. so you did well with 7/2. Ocovango 9/4 and BoM 3/1.
Battle Of Marengo is top rated though, so Flintshire will have to show the further improvement that he's promising.
Euronymous
Senior Jockey
At the time with only one firm pricing it up greedy thing that I am I was holding out for 4/1 so haven't much on at that price.
EC1
On a break
that English Derby form is a cracker 
Euronymous
Senior Jockey
The winner deserves another chance on ground that isn't so fast.
Irish Stamp
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Sorry Steve only just seen this. I like Intello a lot but he has it to prove over 12 furlongs and connections seem keen to drop him in trip for some reason - that would generally be enough to put me off and that if he does go for the Arc it'll be because he doesn't have the speed for a mile rather than them thinking he's a true 12 furlong horse.
davidjohnson
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Flintshire impressive, and nothing from that race will reverse form. Obviously still got plenty of potential, but hard to think that form amounts to a great deal given the pace and proximity of some limited and exposed rivals.
But sometimes you've got to go with the impression it makes on you and mine was that this was something special.
Sheikh
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Where is the best place to watch the race ? I generally like to be with the general populace not in a glass house. How much will it cost me please ?
Sheikh
At the Start
Do I need to have a runner to watch it in the paddock 
I prefer not to watch it in a box with anyone, that's the only reason I'm discounting option 1
I prefer not to watch it in a box with anyone, that's the only reason I'm discounting option 1
Euronymous
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Next to the Sheikh so you can see him getting the trophy.
Sheikh
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Should I ask him to pee into the cup to clear his name ?
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