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The 2025 Longshot Thread

Ontheropes 440 50/1
Always thought he would win the National but never got there when trained by Willie.
About 20lb lower than his best so 50s is worth a go.
 
Saturday - 4:15 Thurles. Jimmy Neville Memorial Hurdle, 2m 6f level weights race. 6 runners including Asterion Forlonge, Hewick, Kilcruit and Amirite. Charles Byrnes runs Aodhan May ( receives the 7 pounds mare's allowance) which won 4 times last season, but hasn't quite managed to recapture that form so far this campaign. Oct' 24 - pushed along when veered left and unseated rider 3 out. Jan'25 - still travelling well when refused at last. Feb'25 - ran out 3 out.
100/1 winner at Cheltenham today, and this one is showing at just 22/1.
 
Uttoxeter, 2.25 - Indiana Dream 50/1, 5 places - has been awful in two runs this season hence the price but this one was thought likely to go to the top a couple of seasons back. 1/1 in a French bumper, bought by JP and sent to Willie Mullins. Next season 1/1 over hurdles. Next season 1/1 over fences then a year off so obviously has had issues. Retained by JP but sent to the O'Neills in January of this year he was pitched in pretty near the deep end against Protektorat in the £175k Fleur De Lys at the Windsor mega-meeting but never went a yard. Next time he was to run in the Rendlesham Hurdle (G2) but was taken on on account of the ground. His next run was a more modest 2m handicap chase at Chepstow but was never going and pulled up. Now dropped 10lbs, he turns up for a £100k hcap hurdle with McLernon up for the first time. The jockey is operating at 25% for JP this season and 55% top four finishes. It might be today, I do suspect Aintree, but I reckon this horse is going to hit form soon and maybe they'll settle for a minor place today but it's worth as much as any Aintree race will be.
 
Irish Lincolnshire.
Trainer usually fires a few darts at this.
Relying on 2. Casanova + No more Porter.
Both have been placed in this race + other big handicaps on the course. Both well handicapped on those efforts.
33s + 50s
 
Irish Lincolnshire.
Trainer usually fires a few darts at this.
Relying on 2. Casanova + No more Porter.
Both have been placed in this race + other big handicaps on the course. Both well handicapped on those efforts.
33s + 50s
I can agree with both those.
Raadobarg is very well hcapped on his 3rd last year.
But the one I like is Earls 33/1 staying on 5th last year but is a couple of pounds worse off.
saver on No More Porter 33/1
 
Lincoln hcap
empirestateofmind 33/1
national
minella cocooner 40/1 6 plces

Skybet
Hi mate. Would you give Dual Identity any sort of each way chance in the Lincoln? He seems a big price, given he was third in a Cambridgeshire, fading late on. He does have form over the mile distance. I remember you've put him up before which is why I ask.

I have got my eye on Harpers Ferry who I think should have an excellent chance, but he's at the top of the betting, currently second favourite. Any thoughts on Dual Identity appreciated.
 
Hi mate. Would you give Dual Identity any sort of each way chance in the Lincoln? He seems a big price, given he was third in a Cambridgeshire, fading late on. He does have form over the mile distance. I remember you've put him up before which is why I ask.

I have got my eye on Harpers Ferry who I think should have an excellent chance, but he's at the top of the betting, currently second favourite. Any thoughts on Dual Identity appreciated.
seems to have improved with age.but I think he needs to drop a few pounds and it would need to be soft over a mile. But you never know.
 
Grand national.

Mr Incredible. 100/1 boosted to 110/1.

2nd or 3rd in the Midlands national for Willie and since then he unseated after being hampered and the last twice he refused to start. Runs on Saturday.be nice if he starts.
 
Grand national.

Mr Incredible. 100/1 boosted to 110/1.

2nd or 3rd in the Midlands national for Willie and since then he unseated after being hampered and the last twice he refused to start. Runs on Saturday.be nice if he starts.
This one is made for the in-running bet, don't you think? If he starts and jumps the first fence, then he might be worth an in-running bet, yeah?

He's good enough to win if he decides he wants to, isn't he. I think the same applies to today. 33/1 in a 5-runner field would be robbery on ability alone but again....
 
He gets a run, I'll throw an ew dart on Duffle Coat. Think he's on the same mark, when he was a strong finishing 2nd in the Galway Plate. He wasn't done with, when brought down 2 out in the Kim Muir at Cheltenham. 100/1.
 
Grand national.

Mr Incredible. 100/1 boosted to 110/1.

2nd or 3rd in the Midlands national for Willie and since then he unseated after being hampered and the last twice he refused to start. Runs on Saturday.be nice if he starts.

Didn't cover himself in glory again today.

RP race comment (which will become the form book comment):

Swerved left start and slowly into stride, in rear, headway and prominent after 3rd, not fluent 6th, mistake 13th, soon dropped to last and looked reluctant, pulled up after 14th (tchd 25/1)


Out to 150s in a few places.
 
I think he pulled himself up didn’t he? Don’t think he should be allowed to run in the National and hope connections won’t. Not fair on horses that will attempt to run their race.
 
I think he pulled himself up didn’t he? Don’t think he should be allowed to run in the National and hope connections won’t. Not fair on horses that will attempt to run their race.
According to Stewards Report he has been reported to BHA, so I imagine any thought of GN will soon be over.

Kelso, 22 Mar 25
Race 1 - 1:15pm
THE LADBROKES "BEST ODDS GUARANTEED ON RACING" HANDICAP STEEPLE CHASE (CLASS 2) (GBB RACE)

Ryan Mania the rider of MR INCREDIBLE (IRE), was fined £80 for failing to carry a whip in this race.

An enquiry was held to consider why Ryan Mania, the rider of MR INCREDIBLE (IRE), which pulled up, appeared to use his reins to encourage his mount during the race. The Stewards reminded Mania of his responsibilities under rule D(2), that only an approved whip should be used to encourage a horse during a race.

An enquiry was held to consider the unruly behaviour of MR INCREDIBLE (IRE) which appeared to pull himself up after the 14th fence. Ryan Mania and Sandy Thomson were interviewed and shown recordings of the incident. As the gelding had also been unruly by refusing to race on 20 April 2024 at Ayr and again on 26 December 2024 at WETHERBY, the matter was referred to the Head Office of the British Horseracing Authority.
 
Golden Mind in the Class 2 at Kempton 7.00. 33-1 looks daft.

The risks are the outside draw + GM appears to have two ways of running - good and downright awful (although two bad runs were at Wolves, could be he just doesn't like it there).

Was entered for the Lincoln, for which I would have had him on a short list of two at a big price...but a few days back it began looking obvious that he would go for this instead. I'll throw a wild guess that switch was down to the likelihood of fastish ground at Doncaster.

Stays a wet, straight 7f well, and won over 6f here race before last (from the front). So this Kempton 7f seems potentially dead on and the extra furlong might partially offset the draw. If they decide to try and front-run it, you'd have to be worried he'll use too much up early getting to the front - likely the best way to win it will be to settle and come down the outside.

No large stakes given the propensity to throw in a bad one and the draw doubts, but at his best 33s looks big enough.
 
Golden Mind in the Class 2 at Kempton 7.00. 33-1 looks daft.

The risks are the outside draw + GM appears to have two ways of running - good and downright awful (although two bad runs were at Wolves, could be he just doesn't like it there).

Was entered for the Lincoln, for which I would have had him on a short list of two at a big price...but a few days back it began looking obvious that he would go for this instead. I'll throw a wild guess that switch was down to the likelihood of fastish ground at Doncaster.

Stays a wet, straight 7f well, and won over 6f here race before last (from the front). So this Kempton 7f seems potentially dead on and the extra furlong might partially offset the draw. If they decide to try and front-run it, you'd have to be worried he'll use too much up early getting to the front - likely the best way to win it will be to settle and come down the outside.

No large stakes given the propensity to throw in a bad one and the draw doubts, but at his best 33s looks big enough.
Either a case of great minds or fools seldom differ but I also backed this one, took 25s last night thinking it was bound to shorten.
 
Lope Harswell Brocklesby Saturday 33/1 Skybet
This is one of 4 for Roger Fell.
Is one of the first crop of Lope Y Fernandez who was a group 3 winner as a 2 year old and placed in group 1 races at 3.
There has been money for this one so I'm hoping it's been showing plenty of speed at home.
A bit of a shot in the dark, but the odds could seem generous come post time.
 
Lope Harswell Brocklesby Saturday 33/1 Skybet
This is one of 4 for Roger Fell.
Is one of the first crop of Lope Y Fernandez who was a group 3 winner as a 2 year old and placed in group 1 races at 3.
There has been money for this one so I'm hoping it's been showing plenty of speed at home.
A bit of a shot in the dark, but the odds could seem generous come post time.

Have been out for a good chunk of the day, but would have put this up earlier. It is somewhat of a guessing game in this race but I was advised by somebody in the industry to have an EW interest at a similar price ...... with 4 places on offer the 33/1 with Sky - Ladbrokes and Coral may shorten a bit further come race time. Be Lucky
 


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