Boylesports... whats the matter with them?

EC1 said:
I guess my outlook is very simple..back a few horses..if it makes money..i'm happy as i must be doing something others punters aren't seeing..so i just stick to betfair

hosses for courses as they say.

you guys are shrewder than i am with the betting..not my strength tbh...i just want a profit
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It takes years to master Betfair. Its not easy. I've finally got my account into black. It takes a different style of betting on there.
 
clivex said:
I see no real reason now not to use exchanges more I dont obsess over the fractions too much because im not betting much at all.

whats odd about this is that account has been at same level for around three years. why now?
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Can you post your last 5 bets? Needless to say some young lad has got a job in their trading room and shot his load after you had a good bet.
 
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i may dig them out but account is closed now. they certainly werent low grade racing, i know that
 
EC1 said:
are you talking about pattern Slim?..ie sometimes the 20 quid punter will tell you more than the 2k punter..20 quid win..20 quid win..100 quid win etc. tells you more than somene who has 2k..2k 3k etc
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Yeah that can be true. I would have more respect for a €200 bet from someone in particular rather than a 10k from someone else.
 
Bloke I know well bet 2k a race at thirsk one evening and was so coked up he had to ring the bookie the next day to find out if he had had a winner. He hadn't
 
SlimChance said:
Multiples are not available. They are done through the sportsbook who will close you as soon as you back a horse over night at 5/1 that goes off 3/1.
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Mutiples are available but at SP only.........btw I can't bet on the UK sportsbook as that privilege is used up by my Aussie account but I had a multiple bet today. I can't take prices outside of the exchange
 
Some incredibly interesting posts on this thread.Boylesports were the first to close me down and unfortunately it made me feel I was a lot better as a punter then I actually was.
My brother is the ultimate recreational punter -bets €2 here,there and everywhere -was restricted by Ireland's leading bookmaker last year-no way he could possibly win but chased the dream every day.
 
Boyles refused me £120ew on something the other day. I gradually reduced the stakes to see what they would take. When they refused £1ew I asked them to close the account and refund my balance.

Ladbrokes restrict me to bets to win £50 - my crime was to win about £800 over the course of a few bets.

Betfair sportsbook restricted me after one £200 bet - it was a loser but I took 15/8 and it went off odds on.

All the others have been fine with reasonable large bets and in some cases decent profits. Agree with Slim re bookies vs Betfair. There's a massive advantage in taking early prices, each way terms and being able to do multis. By the time the Betfair market has sufficient liquidity it's close to efficiently priced.
 
Me mate billion has had the chop from boylesport and he bets two quid max.
The only firm to restrict me are racebets and that's because they don't have the slots. Play a tenner or so on them a week win or lose and they'll keep you.
 
LUKE said:
Some incredibly interesting posts on this thread.Boylesports were the first to close me down and unfortunately it made me feel I was a lot better as a punter then I actually was.
My brother is the ultimate recreational punter -bets €2 here,there and everywhere -was restricted by Ireland's leading bookmaker last year-no way he could possibly win but chased the dream every day.
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If any account is incorrectly restricted by PP then please DM me the username.

Anyone arbing don't waste your time.
 
http://www.theguardian.com/global/2015/aug/02/betting-horses-gambling-bookmakers-accounts-closed

This is a good article which reflects a lot of the discussion on here.

I think Alex Salmond is right that the way to counter these practices is to make it a condition of a bookmaker licence that they accept any bets at advertised odds to win a reasonable amount.

I would also suggest a panel to which customers can appeal if they get restricted or closed down. The panel would have the power to seek a confidential explanation from the bookmaker, supported by facts, and decide whether their behaviour is reasonable. Unreasonable decisions could be reported to the licencing authority and taken into account when licences are up for renewal.
 
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I don't like their behaviour but the market should sort this out. Perhaps we just need to know a bit more about which bookies are being difficult and they should then find it harder to win custom. Comes down to market information

I think maybe the adverts should be with conditions but I would be sure that could be challenged legally quite easily. A supermarket can advertise a price but doesnt have to guarantee availability. Or should be made to. But a supermarket that screws up and doesn't deliver will soon get a bad name. And so on and so forth

slim.. I assume that pp are one of the good guys here? I have an account with them.

it was a good article which I was going to highlight . Quite a coincidence. Overall though the exchanges are the winners and the bookies as a whole should be aware of that
 
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I don't like their behaviour but the market should sort this out. Perhaps we just need to know a bit more about which bookies are being difficult and they should then find it harder to win custom. Comes down to market information
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But what if bookies are sharing information about their clients, as some of us suspect?
 
I opened a Bwin account ,lodged €150 tried to have a ante post bet on a rugby league team to win NRL .

They were top odds at 11/2 but plenty of 5/1 on oddschecker,max bet was something like €70 so put the 70 on.

Went back a few days later to back something else and account was restricted to under €10 bets .

It doesn't make any sense to me why someone thought the account should be restricted after that 1 bet l did.
 
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But what if bookies are sharing information about their clients, as some of us suspect?
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the they only have themselves to blame if they are self destructing their market. In fact I have wondered that. Jesus I bet smallish stakes but my pp account has trebled this year (I am not boasting) from a fair balance. Did that get to boyle sports?

i don't care really but as a mate said quite rightly today they probably spent more closing the acciuntants nd briefly dealing with me than they will lose by keeping me. And of course that's more people that will know they are crap
 
clivex said:
the they only have themselves to blame if they are self destructing their market. In fact I have wondered that. Jesus I bet smallish stakes but my pp account has trebled this year (I am not boasting) from a fair balance. Did that get to boyle sports?

i don't care really but as a mate said quite rightly today they probably spent more closing the acciuntants nd briefly dealing with me than they will lose by keeping me. And of course that's more people that will know they are crap
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You are entitled to your privacy under data protection laws; I think it would be illegal for bookmakers to swap information in this way.
 
I'm sure you are right and frankly I doubt it happened and don't care anyway . I like paddy power and would prefer not to believe they would be so crass
 
Believe me, Paddy Power are not the good guys: they limit just like all the others.
I only used to bet their enhanced offers on footy and racing and lasted well over a year.
Their regular odds for horses are cringeworthy and frankly not worth looking at.
 
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Grey said:
http://www.theguardian.com/global/2015/aug/02/betting-horses-gambling-bookmakers-accounts-closed

This is a good article which reflects a lot of the discussion on here.

I think Alex Salmond is right that the way to counter these practices is to make it a condition of a bookmaker licence that they accept any bets at advertised odds to win a reasonable amount.

I would also suggest a panel to which customers can appeal if they get restricted or closed down. The panel would have the power to seek a confidential explanation from the bookmaker, supported by facts, and decide whether their behaviour is reasonable. Unreasonable decisions could be reported to the licencing authority and taken into account when licences are up for renewal.
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The guy can get on with Bet365 and he's complaining.

**** my life.

That article is essentially a load of bollocks. He's not covering any new ground. I have ZERO accounts left, yes ZERO. You find other ways to get bets on if you want to win. The premise that bookmakers have the odds in their favour is an absolute myth. Is anyone seriously telling me that Bet365 make money on a Saturday the way they trade their prices and offers? I doubt they make more than 2% on racing from UK and Irish punters every year. They run it as a loss leader.
 
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