Novice Chasers 2019/20

"The plan is to go straight to the Arkle with Esprit Du Large. He has had three runs before Christmas and won a Grade One.

"There is no point slogging him around in January and February with penalties on his back, as really and truly the spring is when we want him. Had he needed the experience it might have been different.

"He will have his jabs now and have a quiet time over Christmas, as there are potentially three Grade Ones at Cheltenham, Aintree and Punchestown in the spring."

Williams added: "He might have an away day or a school somewhere, but I'm not too worried if he doesn't."
 
Double Handful said:
Not sure that's as much a move as it is NRNB kicking in with a few firms and others who are not NRNB, but still can't contract their price too.

Still 20's available with some books and on the machine.

Was keen on Esprit myself last week, but disappointed Nube Negre didn't Frank the form on Saturday.

There's nothing new that has happened in past few days to justify him shortening. We've known for a long time he goes straight to Cheltenham after sandown LTO. If anything his chances are not as strong after the weekend. Rouge vif ahead him now on form lines really.
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You are right in that on the raw Nube Negra formline Rouge Vif is ahead of Esprit.

However, that assumes Nuba Negra ran to exactly the same level of form which is questionable and unlikely.

Also, the upward curve is potentially a bit more upward for Esprit Du Large, imvho.

I feel a brutal gallop will see him picking them off one by one whereas Rouge Vif I am not sure has the proven class to do that.

Esprit Du Large I would take 16's on with a feeling he will prove the upward curve and class that I think he may well have.

Its a big if but without him really cementing his form down with another run before the meeting that's the best case I can make for him.

I am happy to take 16's he will prove it on the day.
 
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Slim said:
Three runs is surely enough? He is untested but also completely unexposed.
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Yes. It's the unexposed angle that still gives me hope for my 20/1 antepost dockets.

As I say, I was very keen last week when noticing his winning time in sandown was the exact same as Defi on the same day.

The Nube Negre run has dented my confidence and enthusiasm somewhat, but happy enough to have him running for me at 20/1 as an outsider and cover on the day.
 
If Allaho goes for the Marsh you're looking at Champs vs Minella Indo and some handicappers.

The Reynoldstown might throw one up, Copperhead or Pym.
 
Calling all forum members.... This is your last chance to get aboard the PYM train!
I've been harping on about him at 25/1 for the RSA on multiple threads for weeks now. He's just such a good value E/W bet!
The 25/1 is now all gone and he's a general 16/1 shot - but there's still a sniff of 20/1 out there with a couple of books.
Also only pennies available on the Exchange at 19.

He'll likely go off shorter than 2/1 FAV for the Reynoldstown on Sat, and if he wins he'll be single figures for the RSA.

You've been told !
 
Euronymous said:
Big if. That Copperhead looks a proper tool albeit trip might be on short side Saturday.
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Ah Euro, It's hardly that BIG of an IF..........
Appreciate Pym has some solid competition in Copperhead, Sam Brown and maybe even Danny Whizzbang.
But Pym is already the 2/1 Fav in the antepost books and looks a certain runner. He's obviously fancied by connections.
Also, Some others may not even line up.

I'll obviously be very disappointed if he doesn't win, but barring any accidents I'd be shocked if he's not right there in the mix over the last.
 
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Is this Pyms target for definite? Sure I read he could go for the 4 miler.

I was impressed with Master Tommytucker when I saw him, but he’s fallen and seems as fragile as they come.
 
Double J said:
Is this Pyms target for definite? Sure I read he could go for the 4 miler.
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He's not even entered in the NHC. The RSA his only Novice chase entry.
The Ultima is the one slight danger still of him going to a different race.
if he were to be well beaten on Sat and dropped a few lbs - only then does the Ultima becomes a more likely target.
Win or go close on Saturday and i fully expect its full steam ahead RSA.
 
Double Handful said:
Calling all forum members.... This is your last chance to get aboard the PYM train!
He'll likely go off shorter than 2/1 FAV for the Reynoldstown on Sat, and if he wins he'll be single figures for the RSA.
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Double Handful said:
I'll obviously be very disappointed if he doesn't win, but barring any accidents I'd be shocked if he's not right there in the mix over the last.
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As you can imagine, I've been glued to the betting on today's Reynoldstown over the past 24 hours..... It has swung overnight in the favour of Sam Brown, with Pym drifting a small bit, out to 11/4 this morning.

The ground will be heavy and testing today, and the common consensus seems to be that it will suit Sam Brown better. The closer the race gets, the more the market seems to have adjusted to this ground factor.

In turn, I suppose my own views on todays race have also been tempered and swung a little bit more to hope, rather than expectation. Just hope Pym can handle the ground sufficiently to do himself justice!

Big day! I'm into Pym at 40/1 and 25/1 multiple times for the RSA. He's a +€4K winner for me in that!

At this point I think I'd settle for a strong showing and at least coming close today, where the ground can be a legitimate excuse! Just to at least keep the dream alive [emoji1]

#nervous
 
The worry with all the races today, for me, is working out which are prepping and which are targeting. I'll probably leave Pym's race alone for that reason but I've marked him off as my selection in the race. Probably won't back him, though.
 
Pym’s accurate jumping the last twice and the 2lb he receives from Sam Brown shades it for me.

Danny Whizzbang also of some interest as this track likely to see him in a better light than Kempton where he lost all chance when hampered and ran better than the margin of defeat suggests


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