Royal Ascot

Am I the only one who's bored of these silks?

Appreciate they're "good for the game" and all that bollocks but still.
 
Tanlic said:
I'm seeing prices of 6/4 about leading Light?

His win in the Queens Vase over Fell Like Dancing at 2 miles doesn't even come close to being good enough. Granted he's a St Leger winner but despite having won at 10f when he ran in the Arc he was totally outclassed and beaten by over 12 lengths in the end.

Fame and Glory won this for AOB but he was a class above this horse IMO. At the price I couldn't have him.

The consistent and tough Tac De Boistron EW looks a much better proposition.

Night of Thunder ran sideways in the last furlong of the 2000 Guineas and still managed to beat Kingman by a long looking 1/2 length. He wasn't stopping, he gave Kingman a head start, he acts well on softish ground, he's got the, if not better due to age, more experienced jockey on board, he's had longer to recover and improve than Kingman.

He's not fav ?

It would seem we refuse to believe our own eyes and it's all down to the fact that Night of Thunder was a 40/1 shot in the Guineas and Kingman was a strong 6/4 favourite therefor it must have been a fluke or a one off.

I doubt if it was a fluke and this should be a very close run thing.

I was in his camp after the Guineas and can understand why Kingman is favourite. If ridden to perfection he should be able to pick Night of Thunder off with his excellent turn of foot.

The only problem is.......Fallon!!!! backing against him in a race as tight as this should be goes against the grain

At the prices Night of Thunder looks the more sensible bet.

Nap of the meeting has to be The Wow Signal

By the time they had gone 3 furlongs at Ayr, still not having been asked a thing by Makin, he had all at full stretch bar one and he only lasted another 1/2 furlong before he too was flat to the boards. Makin gave him a light back hander and he was gone in a flash and there was a lot more left in the tank had he needed it.

Either he showed slight signs of greenness, holding his head to the markedly to the right or it's just a trait of his.

If it was a bit of greenness then an ever better performance could be on the cards.

John Quinn has been up this path before when he sent the unlucky Red Duke for The Group 2 Vintage Stakes at Goodwood with Fallon on board. Fallon got himself into all sots of bother and probably should have won.

So John Quinn knows the time of day and what's required. He also knows this horse would pick up Red Duke the 2yo and carry him.


There's massive confidence that this horse will prove the 50K John's son Sean paid for the horse is money well spent when he picks up a nice 68k tomorrow

I won't be picking up 68K if he wins but I'll manage a coupe of bottles of Dom Perignon if he does :0).

Will have my fingers crossed for connections and if he wins who knows where he could end up.

His sire Starspangledbanner, who is doing exceptionally well as a sire, never won beyond 6f but his dam's half brother won at distances from 8f up to 2 miles in heavy going so who knows ???

All pie in the sky at the moment but fingers crossed this horse is as good as they think he is.

The Wow Signal (Nap) 13/2
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cracking nap Tanlic :cool:
 
Tanlic said:
I'm seeing prices of 6/4 about leading Light?

Nap of the meeting has to be The Wow Signal

By the time they had gone 3 furlongs at Ayr, still not having been asked a thing by Makin, he had all at full stretch bar one and he only lasted another 1/2 furlong before he too was flat to the boards. Makin gave him a light back hander and he was gone in a flash and there was a lot more left in the tank had he needed it.

Either he showed slight signs of greenness, holding his head to the markedly to the right or it's just a trait of his.

If it was a bit of greenness then an ever better performance could be on the cards.

John Quinn has been up this path before when he sent the unlucky Red Duke for The Group 2 Vintage Stakes at Goodwood with Fallon on board. Fallon got himself into all sots of bother and probably should have won.

So John Quinn knows the time of day and what's required. He also knows this horse would pick up Red Duke the 2yo and carry him.


There's massive confidence that this horse will prove the 50K John's son Sean paid for the horse is money well spent when he picks up a nice 68k tomorrow

I won't be picking up 68K if he wins but I'll manage a coupe of bottles of Dom Perignon if he does :0).

Will have my fingers crossed for connections and if he wins who knows where he could end up.

His sire Starspangledbanner, who is doing exceptionally well as a sire, never won beyond 6f but his dam's half brother won at distances from 8f up to 2 miles in heavy going so who knows ???

All pie in the sky at the moment but fingers crossed this horse is as good as they think he is.

The Wow Signal (Nap) 13/2
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Great Shout, wish I'd followed you in!
 
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Some Timeform bod has a piece on Frank being the jock to be on here, straight track anyway. Not sure about that and with Hot Streak and Gabrial's Kaka tomorrow already backed I'd want him to be better than he was there.
 
Desperate Dan said:
Indeed. IMHO he loses far more races that he should have won than any other jockey. And all because of giving his horse far too much to do.
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If you look at where he and the winner were 2 out, it's a shame.

Winner looks good though and Ballydoyle horse unlucky.
 
Ran a cracker will settle for the place,has to be said though looking at the proximity of other runners form looks desperate,the fillies will probably be better..
 
going back to the track record fuss...and to show the ground isn't lightning quick...last year 99 rated Yeager won a handicap in just 100th second slower than Toronado did today
 
Bar the Bull said:
But I thought that Toronado was only 3L off the track record time.

Is that horsesh1t?
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I think it shows that Ascot never really lets the ground get that quick for when the best horses run on it Bar

..like i said Yeager won in 97.78..27 July last year..i'll just correct my previous post..it was rated just 83 and won on ground that is about as fast as it gets there

a track record needs to be related to an ability level...to mean anything...otherwise it can be a Class C race that holds it just by fortune of running on it on the day they haven't watered the real fast out of it...had we had a G1 on that day they would have broke the track record comfy

for it to be the same ground as when Yeager won then Toronado would have had to run 96.00 -96.30 today

i also think that the track runs quicker since they altered it
 
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