The Two Mile Chasers

[reet hard]

Today was Energumene's second run in 2 years.
Expect better at the Festival,and I've taken the 7/1.

 

[LUKE]

Today was Energumene's second run in 2 years.
Expect better at the Festival,and I've taken the 7/1.

7swith a run is a great price.

 

[viking]

Had no chance on today’s ground. If it comes up soft at the Festival then the form could easily be reversed

 

[LUKE]

Jonbon is an admirable horse.

 

[Frankel]

Il Est Francais would add spice to this race if rocking up. Was sticking up some decent numbers in the King George.

 

[Tanlic]

Took me a while to warm to Jonbon, but really like him now. Proper horse.

I must admit Ii underestimated him....very impressive

 

[reet hard]

I must admit Ii underestimated him....very impressive

And how many Champion Chases has he won?

 

[Desert Orchid]

That might be as good as Energumene is these days, at the age of 11. It’s also the furthest Jonbon has ever beaten Edwardstone.

Edwardstone's OR is 163. Jonbon has beaten him 11lbs.

174 is a decent rating - I think he'll go up to 175 on Tuesday - but it's a fair bit below Altior, Shishkin and Sprinter Sacre.

For the record, I had Jonbon on 178 going into yesterday's race and I also believe Edwardstone is some way better than 163 so I do think the form is better than the bare bones but it still points to Energumene being off his peak.

Isn't there a doubt of sorts about Jonbon at Cheltenham? If so, it could end up Energumene's to lose.

Unless Sir Gino rocks up in it...

 

[Len Madeiros]

Edwardstone's OR is 163. Jonbon has beaten him 11lbs.

174 is a decent rating - I think he'll go up to 175 on Tuesday - but it's a fair bit below Altior, Shishkin and Sprinter Sacre.

For the record, I had Jonbon on 178 going into yesterday's race and I also believe Edwardstone is some way better than 163 so I do think the form is better than the bare bones but it still points to Energumene being off his peak.

Isn't there a doubt of sorts about Jonbon at Cheltenham? If so, it could end up Energumene's to lose.

Unless Sir Gino rocks up in it...

Or Il est Francais…

I actually think Gaelic Warrior might prove to be the good thing in the CC, and I agree that Jonbon has never shown his best at Cheltenham. I don’t think Energumene, at 11, will improve for yesterday’s run.

 

[barjon]

Jonbon won’t be beaten.

 

[viking]

That’s a brave statement

 

[Beef or Salmon]

Question marks over them all in one way or another so considering his commanding win today, his 3rd in an Arkle and a much better jockey on board now, I couldn't resist a little e/w nibble on Matata @ 90/1 with Ladbrokes, I imagine I shall be able to lay it off at half of that once the dust settles.

 

[Desert Orchid]

I wouldn't read too much into today's margin myself. I backed it today because I thought it might be the only one really trying. There were grounds for suspicion about each of the others.

 

[reet hard]

Jonbon won’t be beaten.

Think you're under-estimating WPM,BJ.

 

[Euronymous]

I have to be against Jonbon at Cheltenham. He's top class but can be found out like Kauto Star was on occasion if he's jumping is put under pressure.

 

[jinnyj]

I think the difference with Jonbon from previous visits is how much he’s learned to relax now. He’s a much more complete racehorse now and easier to place in a race

 

[reet hard]

Agree,but he's still a speed horse,and it requires more to win a Champion Chase,imo.

 

[Frankel]

He's won a Melling. Stamina is hardly an issue.

 

[reet hard]

He's won a Melling. Stamina is hardly an issue.

He's won 3 at the track, which favours speed much more than Cheltenham

 

[Frankel]

He's won 3 at the track, which favours speed much more than Cheltenham

Without Constitution Hill and El Fabiolo he would have won a Supreme and an Arkle.

I think the oppo will try and put his jumping under pressure. Still isn't always the most fluent.