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Every event is meat and drink to the political point scorers on here, but it's difficult to see how this takes us at all forward.
If John Campbell's synopsis is near correct, then testing could prove salvation for the British economy.
 
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reet hard said:
Every event is meat and drink to the political point scorers on here, but it's difficult to see how this takes us at all forward.
If John Campbell's synopsis is near correct, then testing could prove salvation for the British economy.
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Another small example supporting the above. Surely the way to move forward.

https://edition.cnn.com/asia/live-n...l-04-15-20/h_68df05d2db97640d0a6a5180526b2d5b



Just 4 out of 29 is well over 80% and in line with the china finding although pregnant women may have more anti-bodies present and show greather resistance.
 
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moehat said:
Sorry; why is it incorrect. Did we not see what was happening in other countries? Or do you mean we didn't do 'nothing' we did 'something'; however that 'something' was nowhere near enough. I'm actually getting sick and tired of people defending this government. Do you not think we should have done more. More testing, more tracing. Are you happy with what is happening now and how the government have handled it? NHS staff without the correct clothing; people dying in care homes?
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It's never going to be enough, is it?
 
reet hard said:
Every event is meat and drink to the political point scorers on here, but it's difficult to see how this takes us at all forward.
If John Campbell's synopsis is near correct, then testing could prove salvation for the British economy.
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I am at risk; as are my family. I will never ever use something like that as a way of political point scoring. However, if I feel that politicians have been instrumental in making that risk greater out of sheer incompetence then I shall hold them to account. No matter which party it happens to be.
 
Where do people from both sides stand on the tracing app being developed at present?

I can see both sides of the argument for and against it myself, but think it would be most use in cities. They barely have 3g coverage where I am.
 
simmo said:
Where do people from both sides stand on the tracing app being developed at present?

I can see both sides of the argument for and against it myself, but think it would be most use in cities. They barely have 3g coverage where I am.
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Given people are already protesting the lockdown I think expecting people to use a tracking app is a stretch.
 
USA - https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america
2 day since projected peak in daily deaths
60,308 COVID-19 deaths projected by August 4, 2020

Ireland - https://covid19.healthdata.org/ireland
1 days since projected peak in daily deaths
890 COVID-19 deaths projected by August 4, 2020

UK - https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-kingdom
4 days until projected peak in daily deaths
37,521 COVID-19 deaths projected by August 4, 2020

Italy - https://covid19.healthdata.org/italy
20 days since projected peak in daily deaths
26,007 COVID-19 deaths projected by August 4, 2020

Germany - https://covid19.healthdata.org/germany
1 since projected peak in daily deaths
4,957 COVID-19 deaths projected by August 4, 2020

France - https://covid19.healthdata.org/france
12 days since projected peak in daily deaths
22,555 COVID-19 deaths projected by August 4, 2020

Spain - https://covid19.healthdata.org/spain
16 days since projected peak in daily deaths
23,680 COVID-19 deaths projected by August 4, 2020

Sweden - https://covid19.healthdata.org/sweden
23 days until projected peak in daily deaths
13,259 COVID-19 deaths projected by August 4, 2020
 
OK. What would you do.
Our neighbours are very nice and we get on well. Our houses are about 50m apart with high wall in between and no overlook really other than I can peer out of my bathroom window to see if their cars are there. We regularly used to pop round. He’s a retired engineer and she’s a retired psychologist but was a former GP. Their daughter is a doctor currently working at Yeovil hospital. The last three weekends the daughter has been round there. Now her parents are not in any way needing anything. They successfully have supermarket deliveries and go out most days to the town for “essentials “ I just don’t get it. My mother has a compromised immune system so I am being ultra careful limiting shopping to once a week but early morning so I meet barely a handful of people. I couldn’t believe it when the daughter was back again today. I really want to go and say something but that then causes neighbourly problems.
On a separate issue they have put in for planning without mentioning it to us to add an extension to their Grade II listed house on the side closest to us. We got a letter through so I checked plans online and it’s a modern extension with bifold plastic windows...on a period property and is double the size of the bit they are demolishing. I’m afraid I have objected on the grounds that it’s not remotely in keeping with the character of the house (it’s a very attractive house and we are in a Conservation area). I said I don’t have a problem with an extension but they need to rethink its design (added to that the layout will probably mean that there is no room to park there so they will open new entrance to the property which would mean on a blind corner. I may have mentioned that too....). So to hit them with a complaint about the flouting of CV rules, might just trigger an issue.
 
Yes up to a point but if they are then regularly going into my small local town, then potentially they are upping the risk to us and the rest of the community. Daughter is working in a hospital where there have been CV cases and deaths. I’m just annoyed (probably made worse by the ramped up emotions we are all going through) that so many people are respecting what we have been told to do and not “household hop” and here are a medically trained family doing the opposite.
 
Two separate issues, obviously.

You're right to object to the extension on the grounds you state.

The other matter is much more delicate.

But their attitude regarding the extension betrays a selfish mindset and I'm surprised the psychologist in the family can't see that.

I'd be tempted to inform the police anonymously and let them deal with it.
 
Slim said:
USA - https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america
2 day since projected peak in daily deaths
60,308 COVID-19 deaths projected by August 4, 2020

Ireland - https://covid19.healthdata.org/ireland
1 days since projected peak in daily deaths
890 COVID-19 deaths projected by August 4, 2020

UK - https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-kingdom
4 days until projected peak in daily deaths
37,521 COVID-19 deaths projected by August 4, 2020

Italy - https://covid19.healthdata.org/italy
20 days since projected peak in daily deaths
26,007 COVID-19 deaths projected by August 4, 2020

Germany - https://covid19.healthdata.org/germany
1 since projected peak in daily deaths
4,957 COVID-19 deaths projected by August 4, 2020

France - https://covid19.healthdata.org/france
12 days since projected peak in daily deaths
22,555 COVID-19 deaths projected by August 4, 2020

Spain - https://covid19.healthdata.org/spain
16 days since projected peak in daily deaths
23,680 COVID-19 deaths projected by August 4, 2020

Sweden - https://covid19.healthdata.org/sweden
23 days until projected peak in daily deaths
13,259 COVID-19 deaths projected by August 4, 2020
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We are already past the peak and if Sweden's is in over 3 weeks then I'm a monkey's uncle.
 
jinnyj said:
Yes up to a point but if they are then regularly going into my small local town, then potentially they are upping the risk to us and the rest of the community. Daughter is working in a hospital where there have been CV cases and deaths. I’m just annoyed (probably made worse by the ramped up emotions we are all going through) that so many people are respecting what we have been told to do and not “household hop” and here are a medically trained family doing the opposite.
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I see what you mean about them infecting people in your village. My SIL was working in London pre lockdown and we were so worried that he would bring the virus back with him at weekends; even though he wasn't allowed out when at home we were so relieved when lockdown meant he could work from home back here. I'd be tempted to take the odd sneaky picture of their daughter when she turns up on their doorstep. The annoying thing is, if they infect people in your village you'll probably feel responsible for not saying anything [not that you are]whereas they sound like the sort of people that wouldn't care. Maybe their daughter is being tested before she travels back? Still doesn't make it right, though. Certainly object to the house plans; reckon people are trying to sneak through all sorts of things at the moment.
 
jinnyj said:
Yes up to a point but if they are then regularly going into my small local town, then potentially they are upping the risk to us and the rest of the community. Daughter is working in a hospital where there have been CV cases and deaths. I’m just annoyed (probably made worse by the ramped up emotions we are all going through) that so many people are respecting what we have been told to do and not “household hop” and here are a medically trained family doing the opposite.
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I see what you mean about them infecting people in your village. My SIL was working in London pre lockdown and we were so worried that he would bring the virus back with him at weekends; even though he wasn't allowed out when at home we were so relieved when lockdown meant he could work from home back here. I'd be tempted to take the odd sneaky picture of their daughter when she turns up on their doorstep. The annoying thing is, if they infect people in your village you'll probably feel responsible for not saying anything [not that you are]whereas they sound like the sort of people that wouldn't care. Maybe their daughter is being tested before she travels back? Still doesn't make it right, though. Certainly object to the house plans; reckon people are trying to sneak through all sorts of things at the moment.
 
My daughter asked a policeman friend about the same problem with her neighbour - constant stream of visitors, family gathering in the garden. She was told that she should make a formal report to the police. The police arrived and were told by her neighbour that her sister and her four children were at the house because the sister's cooker had broken down. The police phoned my daughter saying basically there was nothing they could do!! but that she had done the right thing to report it.

Would it be obvious to your neighbours that you had informed the police?
 
I've just been down to my mother's. Brother was there all day yesterday clearing her boiler chimney from birds nests that were choking it up completely.

I needed to clean up the mess as my mother isn't fit enough to manage it on her own.

I hope her neighbours are not stasi type informants.
 
Can I just say it is always the best policy to mind your own business and the police won't give two fucks, she is breaking no laws.
 
It's not a case of minding your own business at the moment; our actions can potentially kill other people. We must all be mindful of that. Every single little thing we can do to stop other people being infected should be done. And jinnys neighbour is breaking the law because it's an unnecessary journey. I agree it's not a good time to waste the polices times with stuff that they can't do anything about though. I sometimes think that a lot of people just don't understand how incredibly infectious this virus is.
 
moehat said:
It's not a case of minding your own business at the moment; our actions can potentially kill other people. We must all be mindful of that. Every single little thing we can do to stop other people being infected should be done. And jinnys neighbour is breaking the law because it's an unnecessary journey. I agree it's not a good time to waste the polices times with stuff that they can't do anything about though. I sometimes think that a lot of people just don't understand how incredibly infectious this virus is.
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This is like an episode of 1984. There is no law that will be enforced being broken.
 
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